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which wireless do you like linksys, netgear or dlink BigJim 01-20-2006
Posted by BigJim on January 22, 2006, 11:24 am
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so I take it you still don't trust them even after they remove the auto
spamer
> BigJim wrote:
>>> Ok now that I going to purchase and install a new wireless router which
>>> ones do you all like.
>
>> I've used several of each at home and at work. They both work well. My
>> son swears by Belkin. He claims they have the best bang for the buck.
>> Take your pick.
>
> After that stunt Belkin pulled a couple of years ago where their routers
> came factory configured to intercept user HTTP requests every few hours
> and
> redirect the requests to a Belkin web site to serve up a Belkin product
> ad,
> I'm slightly amazed that anyone would even consider buying a Belkin
> router.
> That their developers would even consider hijacking user connection
> requests to deliver ads instead of the page/image/whatever the user
> requested was appalling. To make matters worse, Belkin didn't seem to
> understand why people thought it was a big deal, but agreed to remove the
> "feature".
>
> If you don't recall the incident,
> "http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/35529" has part of the story and some
> of the USENET articles at the time. Follow the "a lot of heat" link near
> the top to see more.
> -WBE



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Posted by Warren on January 22, 2006, 12:49 pm
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BigJim wrote:
> so I take it you still don't trust them even after they remove the auto
> spamer


They never said they were sorry for doing it. They said they were sorry
people were offended that they did it.

"I'm sorry you didn't like it when I hit you on the side of the head, " is
not the same as "I'm sorry I hit you on the side of the head."

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Posted by Winston on January 22, 2006, 1:49 pm
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> so I take it you still don't trust them even after they remove the auto
> spamer

:-) But just in case you really want an answer...

No, for two reasons.

1) Bugs are one thing, but when intentional hijacking like that can reach
store shelves, it means that the developers, the quality assurance
people, management, and marketing either agreed with it, didn't
understand why it's wrong, or didn't have the power to veto it. That's
a really bad sign (in my opinion).

The problem isn't the product -- it's the mindset that allowed it.
Judging by what I read at the time, Belkin didn't fix the hijacking
because they woke up and realized it was inherently wrong, but because
of the bad press / customer complaints.

2) Other companies such Cisco/Linksys, Netgear, ZyXEL, and D-Link do,
AFAICT, understand the issues, and such idiocy would never have gotten
off the ground there. With their products' features and prices just as
good or better, there's no reason to even consider Belkin for routers
(in my opinion).
-WBE

Posted by Rich Piotrowski on January 22, 2006, 10:20 pm
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Winston wrote:

[...]

> After that stunt Belkin pulled a couple of years ago where their routers
> came factory configured to intercept user HTTP requests every few hours and
> redirect the requests to a Belkin web site to serve up a Belkin product ad,
> I'm slightly amazed that anyone would even consider buying a Belkin router.
> That their developers would even consider hijacking user connection
> requests to deliver ads instead of the page/image/whatever the user
> requested was appalling. To make matters worse, Belkin didn't seem to
> understand why people thought it was a big deal, but agreed to remove the
> "feature".
>
> If you don't recall the incident,
> "http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/35529" has part of the story and some
> of the USENET articles at the time. Follow the "a lot of heat" link near
> the top to see more.
> -WBE

No, I wasn't aware of that incident. I guess you get what you pay for.

Rich Piotrowski
--
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or just repeating what it was you heard."
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Posted by DMFH on February 5, 2006, 3:12 am
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> BigJim wrote:

> After that stunt Belkin pulled a couple of years ago where their routers
> came factory configured to intercept user HTTP requests every few hours and
> redirect the requests to a Belkin web site to serve up a Belkin product ad,
> I'm slightly amazed that anyone would even consider buying a Belkin router.

I couldn't agree more - this seriously tainted my opinion of the company, and
they had an opportunity to fix it, but chose to act as if nothing was wrong
and acquiring customer data without their consent was "normal". This type
of idiocy is what's destroying American corporate culture in the technical
field. The bean-counters have run amuck with business opportunities created
by cost-cutting and abusing customer relationships instead of investing in
innovation, which, smartly done, will always result in some sort of profit.

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