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under sized frame ksriram29@gmail.com 02-02-2007
Posted by ksriram29@gmail.com on February 2, 2007, 9:37 am
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Hi,

I have a doubt on the under sized frame. The standard
says that the minimum frame size is 64 bytes. What will
happen if we send a frame of size less than 64 to a device?

Lets take an example of ARP Request. I add a ARP
packet inside a frame and make the frame size less
than 64 bytes without any padding
length=(ARP Packet size + Ethernet Header and Trailer)
and send it to a device.

I have few questions based on the above scenario:

1. Will the packet be ignored?
2. Will we get a ARP reply for that packet?
3. Will it get counted as under sized frame?

Any answers would be of great help.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Sriram k


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Posted by Denis Jedig on February 2, 2007, 9:53 am
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On 2 Feb 2007 06:37:49 -0800 ksriram29@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a doubt on the under sized frame. The standard
> says that the minimum frame size is 64 bytes. What will
> happen if we send a frame of size less than 64 to a device?

According to the standard, it has to be dropped by the receiver. If you
have a managed switch, you will see it as "undersize" in RMON statistics.

> Lets take an example of ARP Request. I add a ARP
> packet inside a frame and make the frame size less
> than 64 bytes without any padding
> length=(ARP Packet size + Ethernet Header and Trailer)
> and send it to a device.

A frame less than 64 bytes in Length is not an Ethernet Frame. The standard
requires padding up to the minimum frame length, should header and payload
underrun the minimal frame length.

--
Denis Jedig
syneticon networks GbR http://syneticon.net/service/

Posted by Michelot on February 3, 2007, 4:44 pm
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Bonjour Denis and Ksriram,

> > I have a doubt on the under sized frame. The standard
> > says that the minimum frame size is 64 bytes. What will
> > happen if we send a frame of size less than 64 to a device?
>
> According to the standard, it has to be dropped by the receiver. If you
> have a managed switch, you will see it as "undersize" in RMON statistics.

You can send undersized frames when the Ethernet MAC layer is
transmitted over an other server layer than PHY.

For example, Ethernet MAC over RFC 2684: with PID = 7 the equipments
at both ends can agree that there is no padding added.

Best regards,
Michelot


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