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followup on cell2tel Bluetooth RJ11 gateway Dan Lanciani 06-27-2009
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Posted by Dan Lanciani on June 27, 2009, 12:25 am
I sent it back for repair/replacement. They decided it was not repairable
and sent another. The new one does ring the phone (once) much as the old
one did (at one time) but then it crashes just like the old one. I suspect
that if I keep ringing the phone whatever failed completely on the old one
will fail on the new one. I guess people don't even test with mechanical
ringers anymore...

                                Dan Lanciani
                                ddl@danlan.*com

Posted by GlowingBlueMist on June 27, 2009, 7:00 am
Dan Lanciani wrote:
> I sent it back for repair/replacement. They decided it was not
> repairable and sent another. The new one does ring the phone (once)
> much as the old one did (at one time) but then it crashes just like
> the old one. I suspect that if I keep ringing the phone whatever
> failed completely on the old one will fail on the new one. I guess
> people don't even test with mechanical ringers anymore...
> Dan Lanciani
> ddl@danlan.*com

You might be able to adjust the ringer to accept a lower ring voltage.
Check out this link http://www.sandman.com/ringvoltbul.html and scroll down
until you see "Adjusting an old 2500 set ringer to ring on lower
voltages..." It all depends on if your ringer actually has the Bias spring
adjustment. Cheap clone ringers usually don't have it.

Mike Sandman's web site has quite a few devices available that can amplify
the ring voltage if it is absolutely needed.



Posted by Bruce L. Bergman on June 27, 2009, 3:36 pm
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:00:38 -0500, "GlowingBlueMist"

>Dan Lanciani wrote:
>> I sent it back for repair/replacement. They decided it was not
>> repairable and sent another. The new one does ring the phone (once)
>> much as the old one did (at one time) but then it crashes just like
>> the old one. I suspect that if I keep ringing the phone whatever
>> failed completely on the old one will fail on the new one. I guess
>> people don't even test with mechanical ringers anymore...
>> Dan Lanciani
>> ddl@danlan.*com
>You might be able to adjust the ringer to accept a lower ring voltage.
>Check out this link http://www.sandman.com/ringvoltbul.html and scroll down
>until you see "Adjusting an old 2500 set ringer to ring on lower
>voltages..." It all depends on if your ringer actually has the Bias spring
>adjustment. Cheap clone ringers usually don't have it.
>Mike Sandman's web site has quite a few devices available that can amplify
>the ring voltage if it is absolutely needed.

Like a 1A2 Shoebox KSU - it senses ring voltage and generates it's
own locally to run the tel set and external ringers. The only limit
is how many ringers the 130VAC 20Hz supply in the KSU can drive, and
they do make BIG supplies for big premises.

Anyone know the REN for the input on a Western Electric 400G card?

--<< Bruce >>--

Posted by Al Gillis on June 27, 2009, 11:09 pm

> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:00:38 -0500, "GlowingBlueMist"
>>Dan Lanciani wrote:
>>> I sent it back for repair/replacement. They decided it was not
>>> repairable and sent another. The new one does ring the phone (once)
>>> much as the old one did (at one time) but then it crashes just like
>>> the old one. I suspect that if I keep ringing the phone whatever
>>> failed completely on the old one will fail on the new one. I guess
>>> people don't even test with mechanical ringers anymore...
>>> Dan Lanciani
>>> ddl@danlan.*com
>>You might be able to adjust the ringer to accept a lower ring voltage.
>>Check out this link http://www.sandman.com/ringvoltbul.html and scroll
>>down
>>until you see "Adjusting an old 2500 set ringer to ring on lower
>>voltages..." It all depends on if your ringer actually has the Bias
>>spring
>>adjustment. Cheap clone ringers usually don't have it.
>>Mike Sandman's web site has quite a few devices available that can amplify
>>the ring voltage if it is absolutely needed.
> Like a 1A2 Shoebox KSU - it senses ring voltage and generates it's
> own locally to run the tel set and external ringers. The only limit
> is how many ringers the 130VAC 20Hz supply in the KSU can drive, and
> they do make BIG supplies for big premises.
> Anyone know the REN for the input on a Western Electric 400G card?
> --<< Bruce >>--

I've got two shoeboxes (a 550 and a 550C, with the plastic lift off cover
rather than a hinged door) and none of the 400-type cards installed specify
an REN. And none of the 1A2 BSP handbooks I've got reveal that number,
either. Maybe 400 cards got invented before REN was thought up and WE never
went back to compute or measure that particular characteristic?

Al



Posted by Dan Lanciani on June 27, 2009, 4:13 pm
nobody@nowhere.com (GlowingBlueMist) writes:
| Dan Lanciani wrote:
| > I sent it back for repair/replacement. They decided it was not
| > repairable and sent another. The new one does ring the phone (once)
| > much as the old one did (at one time) but then it crashes just like
| > the old one. I suspect that if I keep ringing the phone whatever
| > failed completely on the old one will fail on the new one. I guess
| > people don't even test with mechanical ringers anymore...
| >
| > Dan Lanciani
| > ddl@danlan.*com
|
| You might be able to adjust the ringer to accept a lower ring voltage.

The current device is making the phone ring but it is crashing thereafter.
The sequence is that I hear a relay click in the Cell2Tel, the phone rings
once, I hear another relay click in the Cell2Tell, and then the Cell2Tel
reboots. It's possible that the residual charge on the ringer's capacitor
is too much for whatever the line is switched back too after the ring
generator. It's clearly a pretty poor design.

                                Dan Lanciani
                                ddl@danlan.*com

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