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ip subnet-zero question Steve C 02-08-2005
Posted by Steve C on February 8, 2005, 6:29 am
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For Classless Subnetting as opposed to classfull subnetting.
If I'm understanding this right, to find the number of Subnets in a
specific Subnet address, the formula, 2 to the power of (number of masked
bits) - 2 = Number of Subnets should now be 2 to the power of (number of
masked bits) -1 = Number of Subnets.
/26 or 192 = 3 Subnets not 2
/27 or 224 = 7 Subnets not 6
240 = 15 and so on.

For host, there can be no one simple formula anymore, for the number of
additional host would be determined by the block size - 2, /28 would add 14
additional hosts, /26 would add 62 and so on.

Nooo?????????





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Posted by Shalom B. on February 8, 2005, 4:55 pm
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There is no such thing as Classless or Classful subnetting!!

Subnetting (and VLSM and CIDR) is by itself classless addressing because
you don't use the classful masks /8, 16 or /24 (class A,B and C
respectively) anymore.

It used to be considered unwise to use the all-zeroes (Zero Subnet) and
all-ones (Broadcast Subnet) subnets as certain hosts might not be able
to differentiate a classful network from a classless one, especially
when making decisions related to routing (e.g. 191.1.65.0 /24 and
191.1.65.0 /28 might have appeared to be the same and could confuse some
hosts) but nowadays (as we are running out of IP address space) it's a
norm to use these 2 subnets. On the Cisco IOS the `ip subnet-zero`
command primarily forces the Layer 3 device to be watchful of the
Zero-subnet and not confuse it with the zero-subnet's major/classful
network, in addition it allows you, the administrator, to implement and
make use of the Zero and broadcast subnets.

Let's quickly go over the calculation of subnets and hosts.

The value of X is the Number of bits in the network portion (Classful
Prefix).
i.e.
The value of X for a Class A Network - 8
The value of X for a Class B Network - 16
The value of X for a Class C Network - 24

The value of N is the number of subnet bits, remember to count N from
the classful boundary of the class of that network.
e.g.
In 101.7.45.0/29, N is 21.
In 172.18.222.208/28, N is 12.
In 191.1.23.0 /25, N is 1.

The formula to calculate # of subnets = (2 ^ N)-2 (no ip subnet-zero)
The formula to calculate # of subnets = 2 ^ N (ip subnet-zero)
The formula to calculate # of subnets = 2 ^ (32-X+N) (stands the same
regardless of the state of the `ip subnet-zero` command).

The number of hosts avialable in Network 172.18.216.208/28 is 14 (as you
would expect) but the number of subnets is 4094 (4096*) (172.18.0.0 is
class B network here and the value of N is actually 12).

The number of hosts available in network 101.7.45.0/29 is 6 and number
of subnets is actually 2,097,150 (2,097,152*) because N is 21.

In case you wish to know more about classless addressing, the following
RFCs might be of use.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc950.html - Internet Standard Subnetting
Procedure.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1519.html - Classless Inter-Domain Routing
(CIDR): an Address Assignment and Aggregation Strategy.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1878.html - Variable Length Subnet Table For
IPv4.
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Steve C wrote:
> For Classless Subnetting as opposed to classfull subnetting.
> If I'm understanding this right, to find the number of Subnets in a
> specific Subnet address, the formula, 2 to the power of (number of masked
> bits) - 2 = Number of Subnets should now be 2 to the power of (number of
> masked bits) -1 = Number of Subnets.
> /26 or 192 = 3 Subnets not 2
> /27 or 224 = 7 Subnets not 6
> 240 = 15 and so on.
>
> For host, there can be no one simple formula anymore, for the number of
> additional host would be determined by the block size - 2, /28 would add 14
> additional hosts, /26 would add 62 and so on.
>
> Nooo?????????
>
>
>


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