extending analog pbx port

extending analog pbx port

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extending analog pbx port Henry Cabot Henhouse III 12-21-2005
Posted by Henry Cabot Henhouse III on December 21, 2005, 11:28 am
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Hi --

I'd like to extend an analog pbx station port from the office to my home.
It should work like an off prem extension, that is when I go off hook at
home, I should get pbx dial tone... when someone calls the extension, my
analog phone at home should ring .

I know there are a lot of boxes out there that do this, but they are
hundreds if not thousands of bucks... I'm wondering if there's an
inexpensive solution (as I'm paying for this on my own).

Thanks in advance!
Dave



Posted by Wolfgang S. Rupprecht on December 21, 2005, 3:42 pm
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> I'd like to extend an analog pbx station port from the office to my home.
> It should work like an off prem extension, that is when I go off hook at
> home, I should get pbx dial tone... when someone calls the extension, my
> analog phone at home should ring .
>
> I know there are a lot of boxes out there that do this, but they are
> hundreds if not thousands of bucks... I'm wondering if there's an
> inexpensive solution (as I'm paying for this on my own).

You can try a pair of Sipura SPA-3000's. One of the canonical
examples they have in their FAQ's is how to set up the dialplan to do
a "hotline". Eg. when you pick up one phone it automatically calls
the some number. You can use that at the PBX-connected sipura to call
your remote sipura whenever a call comes in. The remote sipura would
be setup normally, with the pbx-connected one designated its outgoing
sip gateway. For a bit of added simplicity I'd be sure to get two
identical fxo/fxs units. You'll be screwing around with enough tricky
settings in the units without having to worry about learning two
totally different command sets. (There are probably other FXO/FXS
units that can do the job too. I'm only familiar with the Sipura
unit.)

I have a SPA-3000 that I use to feed a POTS line into my asterisk
(PBX). It works, but the reality of POTS lines is that it is
impossible to feed them into a VOIP system without either causing a
problem with reduced volume or if you crank the volume up, without
introducing a bit of echo. If your pbx outputs a digital signal (PRI
or BRI) this is probably the way you want to go. There are quite a
few universities that have hooked their old PBX to either Cisco
equipment or asterisk/SER and use SIP to connect things. In their
case the goal is also to be able to connect to their PBX over the net,
but only for the purpose of calling the users on their pbx. The
setups should be similar enough that the configuration examples might
prove useful.

http://www.internet2.edu/sip.edu/

-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/
Direct SIP URL Dialing: http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/phonedirectory.html

Posted by Henry Cabot Henhouse III on December 21, 2005, 8:54 pm
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Hi ...

I read a review of the 3000, and it stated that as the 3000's only support
SIP, they have to register with a SIP server. The review also said that
configuring the dial plan was not for the average teleworker.

Do I have to use an outside SIP box to support these?

Thanks
Dave



"Wolfgang S. Rupprecht"
>
>> I'd like to extend an analog pbx station port from the office to my home.
>> It should work like an off prem extension, that is when I go off hook at
>> home, I should get pbx dial tone... when someone calls the extension, my
>> analog phone at home should ring .
>>
>> I know there are a lot of boxes out there that do this, but they are
>> hundreds if not thousands of bucks... I'm wondering if there's an
>> inexpensive solution (as I'm paying for this on my own).
>
> You can try a pair of Sipura SPA-3000's. One of the canonical
> examples they have in their FAQ's is how to set up the dialplan to do
> a "hotline". Eg. when you pick up one phone it automatically calls
> the some number. You can use that at the PBX-connected sipura to call
> your remote sipura whenever a call comes in. The remote sipura would
> be setup normally, with the pbx-connected one designated its outgoing
> sip gateway. For a bit of added simplicity I'd be sure to get two
> identical fxo/fxs units. You'll be screwing around with enough tricky
> settings in the units without having to worry about learning two
> totally different command sets. (There are probably other FXO/FXS
> units that can do the job too. I'm only familiar with the Sipura
> unit.)
>
> I have a SPA-3000 that I use to feed a POTS line into my asterisk
> (PBX). It works, but the reality of POTS lines is that it is
> impossible to feed them into a VOIP system without either causing a
> problem with reduced volume or if you crank the volume up, without
> introducing a bit of echo. If your pbx outputs a digital signal (PRI
> or BRI) this is probably the way you want to go. There are quite a
> few universities that have hooked their old PBX to either Cisco
> equipment or asterisk/SER and use SIP to connect things. In their
> case the goal is also to be able to connect to their PBX over the net,
> but only for the purpose of calling the users on their pbx. The
> setups should be similar enough that the configuration examples might
> prove useful.
>
> http://www.internet2.edu/sip.edu/
>
> -wolfgang
> --
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/
> Direct SIP URL Dialing: http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/phonedirectory.html



Posted by Wolfgang S. Rupprecht on December 22, 2005, 3:35 am
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> I read a review of the 3000, and it stated that as the 3000's only support
> SIP, they have to register with a SIP server.
...
> Do I have to use an outside SIP box to support these?

I don't believe you will need an outside SIP server in order to make a
simple "hotline" service. You only need to setup a call between the
two units and they have enough smarts in the dialplan to do that
themselves.

It is nice to have an ntp server and dhcp server so the units will set
the time automatically and set their IP addresses automatically, but
even that, I believe, is optional.

> The review also said that configuring the dial plan was not for the
> average teleworker.

The dialplan itself is only part of the joy. It's only a one-line
entry. The intimidating part is first seeing the pages and pages of
other crap that you can configure (but for the most part, don't have
to). It is not out of the realm of what someone interested in
tinkering with technical things can handle. The biggest challenge is
just not being scared away by the sheer number of entries that can be
tinkered.

-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/
Direct SIP URL Dialing: http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/phonedirectory.html

Posted by Henry Cabot Henhouse III on December 22, 2005, 5:43 pm
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gratias... the Sipura units are certainly in my price range... guess it wont
hurt to try a pair.

merry christmas / happy holidays!


"Wolfgang S. Rupprecht"
>
>> I read a review of the 3000, and it stated that as the 3000's only
>> support
>> SIP, they have to register with a SIP server.
> ...
>> Do I have to use an outside SIP box to support these?
>
> I don't believe you will need an outside SIP server in order to make a
> simple "hotline" service. You only need to setup a call between the
> two units and they have enough smarts in the dialplan to do that
> themselves.
>
> It is nice to have an ntp server and dhcp server so the units will set
> the time automatically and set their IP addresses automatically, but
> even that, I believe, is optional.
>
>> The review also said that configuring the dial plan was not for the
>> average teleworker.
>
> The dialplan itself is only part of the joy. It's only a one-line
> entry. The intimidating part is first seeing the pages and pages of
> other crap that you can configure (but for the most part, don't have
> to). It is not out of the realm of what someone interested in
> tinkering with technical things can handle. The biggest challenge is
> just not being scared away by the sheer number of entries that can be
> tinkered.
>
> -wolfgang
> --
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/
> Direct SIP URL Dialing: http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/phonedirectory.html



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