ethernet polarity

ethernet polarity

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ethernet polarity TerryS 08-26-2005
---> Re: ethernet polarity Tomi Holger Eng ..08-26-2005
Posted by TerryS on August 26, 2005, 1:23 am
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Are the signals on the two pairs polarity sensitive ? I never thought much
on this and I don't even know what the signals are. We are troubleshooting a
network with lots of packet errors. The customer has not noticed any
degradation yet, but our monitor keeps going into alarm. Anyway, we found
the green pair reversed, on the router to switch cable, but it must have
been for some time, and the problem is recent. This has been corrected,
cable tests out now. Not enough data yet to tell if that fixed it. Just
wondering.

TerryS




Posted by Tomi Holger Engdahl on August 26, 2005, 10:54 am
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> Are the signals on the two pairs polarity sensitive ?


At least on 10 Base-T and 100Base-TX Ethernet system the
parctical systems are not polarity sensitive. The Ethernet
devices should be built in such way that they automatically
correct the reversed polarity situation.

> I never thought much
> on this and I don't even know what the signals are. We are troubleshooting a
> network with lots of packet errors. The customer has not noticed any
> degradation yet, but our monitor keeps going into alarm. Anyway, we found
> the green pair reversed, on the router to switch cable, but it must have
> been for some time, and the problem is recent. This has been corrected,
> cable tests out now. Not enough data yet to tell if that fixed it. Just
> wondering.

Most propably your errors are caused by some other reason.



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Posted by Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th on November 5, 2005, 1:44 am
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>
> > Are the signals on the two pairs polarity sensitive ?
>
>
> At least on 10 Base-T and 100Base-TX Ethernet system the
> parctical systems are not polarity sensitive. The Ethernet
> devices should be built in such way that they automatically
> correct the reversed polarity situation.
>
> > I never thought much
> > on this and I don't even know what the signals are. We are
troubleshooting a
> > network with lots of packet errors. The customer has not noticed any
> > degradation yet, but our monitor keeps going into alarm. Anyway, we
found
> > the green pair reversed, on the router to switch cable, but it must
have
> > been for some time, and the problem is recent. This has been
corrected,
> > cable tests out now. Not enough data yet to tell if that fixed it.
Just
> > wondering.
>
> Most propably your errors are caused by some other reason.

> --
> Tomi Engdahl (http://www.iki.fi/then/)
> Take a look at my electronics web links and documents at
> http://www.epanorama.net/

The ethernet signal goes thru a transformer on each end, and that
essentially makes the signal AC, eliminating any DC component. The
ethernet signals used in the original 10BaseT coax were manchester
encoded, which is not polarity sensitive, IIRC. I believe the signals
on cat5 balanced twisted pair are also manchester encoded. I will
crosspost to comp.dcom.cabling and for some other viewpoints.




Posted by James Knott on November 4, 2005, 9:35 pm
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:

> The ethernet signal goes thru a transformer on each end, and that
> essentially makes the signal AC, eliminating any DC component. The
> ethernet signals used in the original 10BaseT coax were manchester
> encoded, which is not polarity sensitive, IIRC. I believe the signals
> on cat5 balanced twisted pair are also manchester encoded. I will
> crosspost to comp.dcom.cabling and for some other viewpoints.

Why not post in comp.dcom.lans.ethernet, where Rich Seifert, one of the
ethernet creators, often posts?



Posted by Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th on November 5, 2005, 7:56 pm
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> Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
>
> > The ethernet signal goes thru a transformer on each end, and that
> > essentially makes the signal AC, eliminating any DC component. The
> > ethernet signals used in the original 10BaseT coax were manchester
> > encoded, which is not polarity sensitive, IIRC. I believe the
signals
> > on cat5 balanced twisted pair are also manchester encoded. I will
> > crosspost to comp.dcom.cabling and for some other viewpoints.
>
> Why not post in comp.dcom.lans.ethernet, where Rich Seifert, one of
the
> ethernet creators, often posts?

Yeah, I forgot about that one. One time, back when we were still using
15 pin DIX connectors, I complained about them, and said something like
the person who specified those connectors should be made to live with
them for the rest of his life, or something like that. They were
constantly coming loose and causing problems. I think it was he who
came forth and admitted that he was the one that made the decision, and
apologized. I guess he had heard that same complaint many, many times
before!




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