ethernet packet preamble

ethernet packet preamble

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ethernet packet preamble mike7411 05-04-2006
Posted by on May 4, 2006, 2:01 pm
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Is there always an ethernet packet preamble, and should this
be considered in assessing long distance bandwidth usage?


Pure Networks
Posted by Kent on May 4, 2006, 4:23 pm
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My beginner level understanding tells me that yes, there will always be
a preamble as stated in the 802.3 specs.

The preamble is always the first part of the transmission on the wire,
even in FDX mode.

Not sure what you mean by long distance communication, my simple
explanation is that the preamble is "NIC to NICs" or seen in a single
collision domain.

So account for the preamle in the LAN segments, if your calculating BW
across the WAN I would say it is not to be considered.

Kentster


Posted by Stephen Sprunk on May 4, 2006, 6:29 pm
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> My beginner level understanding tells me that yes, there will always be
> a preamble as stated in the 802.3 specs.
>
> The preamble is always the first part of the transmission on the wire,
> even in FDX mode.
>
> Not sure what you mean by long distance communication, my simple
> explanation is that the preamble is "NIC to NICs" or seen in a single
> collision domain.
>
> So account for the preamle in the LAN segments, if your calculating BW
> across the WAN I would say it is not to be considered.

However, aren't there "frame packing" considerations when passing large
numbers of very small frames at 1GE and above? i.e. the preamble precedes
each transmission, but there may be more than one frame per preamble?

S

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Posted by Bill Fulton on May 8, 2006, 2:46 pm
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mike7411@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there always an ethernet packet preamble, and should this
> be considered in assessing long distance bandwidth usage?

When posting homework (and/or network certification) questions, you
should at least go to the trouble of paraphrasing the question!


Posted by glen herrmannsfeldt on May 8, 2006, 3:14 pm
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> mike7411@gmail.com wrote:
>> Is there always an ethernet packet preamble, and should this
>> be considered in assessing long distance bandwidth usage?

> When posting homework (and/or network certification) questions, you
> should at least go to the trouble of paraphrasing the question!

It is a good question, though.

For 10 megabit ethernet the preamble is used to sync. the PLL
in the receiver. For ethernets with continuous signalling, there
is no need to sync. the PLL for each frame, and so no need for
preamble.

-- glen

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