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Work experience Bill YILDIRIM 11-05-2005
Posted by jdsal on November 6, 2005, 10:41 pm
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Bill, if you don't already have support experience in helpdesk or pc support
you would better suited earning some stripes in that capacity first. I am
senior network engineer and I earned my stripes in support, server admin,
and then network admin. Each level you pick up the skills you need to use on
daily basis as a network admin. Then after some time in network admin you
can shovel off the LAN admin to junior personnel and deal with the good
stuff in WANs and enterprise networking.

Thats my two cents anyway.


> Let's say you passed network + and then CCNA exams. you have 9 cisco
> routers, 2 cisco 2950 switches , isdn simulator, pix 501 firewall at your
> home lab and you have above basic knowledge about cisco networking, but
> you have zero real time experience. how hard to get a job? why everybody
> is looking for 2-3 year experience min? what are the possibilities to gain
> some experience? I even think about working for free for couple of month
> just to get some experience. does any one give me some advice about this?
> I live in London by the way and I'm a bloody foreigner :))))))) I have a 5
> years work permit which I have to transfer if I change my job. So do you
> think there is an opportunity out there who will accept to transfer my
> work permit and give me job just becuase I LOVE NETWORKING and this is the
> job I want to do. Not because of money, because I really love this and
> want to have a serious career about networking.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> MCP/MCSA/MCSE
> CCNA Candidate (Due 04/11/2005)
> London
>



Posted by Bill YILDIRIM on November 7, 2005, 6:24 am
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That's exactly when I thought. I'm looking for a job as a helpdesk or
support at the moment. I know if I step in to this world once, the rest will
come easily ( not that easy of course :)) The only thing is to convince a
company to transfer my work permit :)
Regards,
Bill
>
> Bill, if you don't already have support experience in helpdesk or pc
> support you would better suited earning some stripes in that capacity
> first. I am senior network engineer and I earned my stripes in support,
> server admin, and then network admin. Each level you pick up the skills
> you need to use on daily basis as a network admin. Then after some time in
> network admin you can shovel off the LAN admin to junior personnel and
> deal with the good stuff in WANs and enterprise networking.
>
> Thats my two cents anyway.
>
>
>> Let's say you passed network + and then CCNA exams. you have 9 cisco
>> routers, 2 cisco 2950 switches , isdn simulator, pix 501 firewall at your
>> home lab and you have above basic knowledge about cisco networking, but
>> you have zero real time experience. how hard to get a job? why everybody
>> is looking for 2-3 year experience min? what are the possibilities to
>> gain some experience? I even think about working for free for couple of
>> month just to get some experience. does any one give me some advice about
>> this? I live in London by the way and I'm a bloody foreigner :))))))) I
>> have a 5 years work permit which I have to transfer if I change my job.
>> So do you think there is an opportunity out there who will accept to
>> transfer my work permit and give me job just becuase I LOVE NETWORKING
>> and this is the job I want to do. Not because of money, because I really
>> love this and want to have a serious career about networking.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bill
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> MCP/MCSA/MCSE
>> CCNA Candidate (Due 04/11/2005)
>> London
>>
>
>
>




Posted by jdsal on November 10, 2005, 11:58 pm
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One more tip. Get to know the people in the network group. If an opportunity
presents itself and you have gotten to know those people will likely
recommend you. This scenario I have seen play out time and time again. In
fact this approach works for any kind of goal you have in mind that you need
the help of others to accomplish.


>
> That's exactly when I thought. I'm looking for a job as a helpdesk or
> support at the moment. I know if I step in to this world once, the rest
> will come easily ( not that easy of course :)) The only thing is to
> convince a company to transfer my work permit :)
> Regards,
> Bill
>>
>> Bill, if you don't already have support experience in helpdesk or pc
>> support you would better suited earning some stripes in that capacity
>> first. I am senior network engineer and I earned my stripes in support,
>> server admin, and then network admin. Each level you pick up the skills
>> you need to use on daily basis as a network admin. Then after some time
>> in network admin you can shovel off the LAN admin to junior personnel and
>> deal with the good stuff in WANs and enterprise networking.
>>
>> Thats my two cents anyway.
>>
>>
>>> Let's say you passed network + and then CCNA exams. you have 9 cisco
>>> routers, 2 cisco 2950 switches , isdn simulator, pix 501 firewall at
>>> your home lab and you have above basic knowledge about cisco networking,
>>> but you have zero real time experience. how hard to get a job? why
>>> everybody is looking for 2-3 year experience min? what are the
>>> possibilities to gain some experience? I even think about working for
>>> free for couple of month just to get some experience. does any one give
>>> me some advice about this? I live in London by the way and I'm a bloody
>>> foreigner :))))))) I have a 5 years work permit which I have to transfer
>>> if I change my job. So do you think there is an opportunity out there
>>> who will accept to transfer my work permit and give me job just becuase
>>> I LOVE NETWORKING and this is the job I want to do. Not because of
>>> money, because I really love this and want to have a serious career
>>> about networking.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>> MCP/MCSA/MCSE
>>> CCNA Candidate (Due 04/11/2005)
>>> London
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



Posted by yamahasw40 on November 11, 2005, 12:40 am
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Bill YILDIRIM wrote:
> Let's say you passed network + and then CCNA exams. you have 9 cisco
> routers, 2 cisco 2950 switches , isdn simulator, pix 501 firewall at your
> home lab and you have above basic knowledge about cisco networking, but you
> have zero real time experience. how hard to get a job?

Not meaning to sound rude, but if you employ some of the
troubleshooting skills you should have gained during your CCNA studies
on to finding a job, that shouldn't be too difficult. Sit down, work
out your baseline and analyse it.

> why everybody is
> looking for 2-3 year experience min? what are the possibilities to gain some
> experience?

> I even think about working for free for couple of month just to
> get some experience. does any one give me some advice about this?

Good. You've worked out an approach. Why are you posting to Usenet?

> I live in
> London by the way and I'm a bloody foreigner :)))))))

The financial hub of Europe. Chances are there are one or two companies
there who wouldn't mind a bit of free network support. Problem being,
of course, that if they don't pay you, you aren't an employee, and
therefore aren't protected by their liability insurance. You screw up,
they pay.

> I have a 5 years work
> permit which I have to transfer if I change my job. So do you think there is
> an opportunity out there who will accept to transfer my work permit and give
> me job just becuase I LOVE NETWORKING and this is the job I want to do. Not
> because of money, because I really love this and want to have a serious
> career about networking.

Hint: People looking for networking people aren't scouring newsgroups.

Work out what you want to do. If its support, go talk to people with
networks. If its design, look up the Cisco resellers on their website,
but get a CCDA first.

CCNA, while a valid achievement, is now a pretty common cert. It may
open doors, but only enough to stick your nose in a bit.

You are better off leveraging your MSCE experience and moving across
gradually.


Posted by Bill YILDIRIM on November 11, 2005, 4:02 pm
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Hi,

to make things a little bit more clear, I haven't posted this here to find a
job. I just wanted to listen and learn from others experience. I'm sure at
least 10 people had the some problem and found a way to sort it out. Maybe
I'm just looking for a role modal. Everything you and others said will help
me to picture what is waiting for me and will help me to find out how to
start.

>
> Bill YILDIRIM wrote:
>> Let's say you passed network + and then CCNA exams. you have 9 cisco
>> routers, 2 cisco 2950 switches , isdn simulator, pix 501 firewall at your
>> home lab and you have above basic knowledge about cisco networking, but
>> you
>> have zero real time experience. how hard to get a job?
>
> Not meaning to sound rude, but if you employ some of the
> troubleshooting skills you should have gained during your CCNA studies
> on to finding a job, that shouldn't be too difficult. Sit down, work
> out your baseline and analyse it.
>
>> why everybody is
>> looking for 2-3 year experience min? what are the possibilities to gain
>> some
>> experience?
>
>> I even think about working for free for couple of month just to
>> get some experience. does any one give me some advice about this?
>
> Good. You've worked out an approach. Why are you posting to Usenet?
>
>> I live in
>> London by the way and I'm a bloody foreigner :)))))))
>
> The financial hub of Europe. Chances are there are one or two companies
> there who wouldn't mind a bit of free network support. Problem being,
> of course, that if they don't pay you, you aren't an employee, and
> therefore aren't protected by their liability insurance. You screw up,
> they pay.
>
>> I have a 5 years work
>> permit which I have to transfer if I change my job. So do you think there
>> is
>> an opportunity out there who will accept to transfer my work permit and
>> give
>> me job just becuase I LOVE NETWORKING and this is the job I want to do.
>> Not
>> because of money, because I really love this and want to have a serious
>> career about networking.
>
> Hint: People looking for networking people aren't scouring newsgroups.
>
> Work out what you want to do. If its support, go talk to people with
> networks. If its design, look up the Cisco resellers on their website,
> but get a CCDA first.
>
> CCNA, while a valid achievement, is now a pretty common cert. It may
> open doors, but only enough to stick your nose in a bit.
>
> You are better off leveraging your MSCE experience and moving across
> gradually.
>
>




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