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Want direct dialup access to my LAN Harvey 06-08-2008
Posted by Harvey on June 8, 2008, 4:16 pm
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Hi.
I have a Win 98 computer that I want to use on the road to dialup my
Win XP Home computer that is connected to my LAN.
The LAN is via a DSL modem router combo.
When I dailup I am asked for the username, password and domain.
For username and password, I use the same as I use to log ont Win XP.
Is this correct?
What do I use for domain?
Where do I find the is domain name/number?
When I do an ipconfig on the answering computer, I get:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix : domain_not_set.invalid
Is that okay? or can/should I set it? How?
Once set, is that the domain I use to login from dialup?

Thanks,
Harvey

Posted by Martijn Lievaart on June 8, 2008, 6:00 pm
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:16:01 -0700, Harvey wrote:

> Hi.
> I have a Win 98 computer that I want to use on the road to dialup my Win
> XP Home computer that is connected to my LAN. The LAN is via a DSL modem
> router combo. When I dailup I am asked for the username, password and
> domain. For username and password, I use the same as I use to log ont
> Win XP. Is this correct?
> What do I use for domain?
> Where do I find the is domain name/number? When I do an ipconfig on the
> answering computer, I get: Connection-specific DNS Suffix :
> domain_not_set.invalid Is that okay? or can/should I set it? How? Once
> set, is that the domain I use to login from dialup?

Note that this has nothing to do with ethernet. This is a Windows
question.

That said, the "domain" you are looking for is the name of the XP machine.

M4

Posted by Harvey on June 8, 2008, 6:49 pm
> On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:16:01 -0700, Harvey wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I have a Win 98 computer that I want to use on the road to dialup my Win
> > XP Home computer that is connected to my LAN. The LAN is via a DSL modem
> > router combo. When I dailup I am asked for the username, password and
> > domain. For username and password, I use the same as I use to log ont
> > Win XP. Is this correct?
> > What do I use for domain?
> > Where do I find the is domain name/number? When I do an ipconfig on the
> > answering computer, I get: Connection-specific DNS Suffix :
> > domain_not_set.invalid Is that okay? or can/should I set it? How? Once
> > set, is that the domain I use to login from dialup?
>
> Note that this has nothing to do with ethernet. This is a Windows
> question.
>
> That said, the "domain" you are looking for is the name of the XP machine.
>
> M4

This didn't work. what am I missing?

Harvey

Posted by ps56k on June 8, 2008, 7:16 pm
Harvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:16:01 -0700, Harvey wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> I have a Win 98 computer that I want to use on the road to dialup
>>> my Win XP Home computer that is connected to my LAN. The LAN is via
>>> a DSL modem router combo. When I dailup I am asked for the
>>> username, password and domain. For username and password, I use the
>>> same as I use to log ont Win XP. Is this correct?
>>> What do I use for domain?
>>> Where do I find the is domain name/number? When I do an ipconfig on
>>> the answering computer, I get: Connection-specific DNS Suffix :
>>> domain_not_set.invalid Is that okay? or can/should I set it? How?
>>> Once set, is that the domain I use to login from dialup?
>>
>> Note that this has nothing to do with ethernet. This is a Windows
>> question.
>>
>> That said, the "domain" you are looking for is the name of the XP
>> machine.
>>
>> M4
>
> This didn't work. what am I missing?

mostly all the details of what you are doing..... this time -

so... now you are attempting to "dial" from a Win98 computer
to your Win XP computer.

ok - one at a time -

WinXP host - what is there to "answer" the call & connect ?
What software configuration is used to setup the "answer" and "login" to the
computer ?

Win98 client - what is used to dial out ?
Are you dialing your XP computer directly,
or attempting to dial into the Internet, and then connect to your XP
computer ?
Have you configured the Dial Up Networking (DUN) for the connection ?
or are you using some other software to initiate the call to the host ?




Posted by Harvey on June 8, 2008, 11:35 pm
> Harvey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:16:01 -0700, Harvey wrote:
> >>> Hi.
> >>> I have a Win 98 computer that I want to use on the road to dialup
> >>> my Win XP Home computer that is connected to my LAN. The LAN is via
> >>> a DSL modem router combo. When I dail up I am asked for the
> >>> username, password and domain. For username and password, I use the
> >>> same as I use to log onto Win XP. Is this correct?
> >>> What do I use for domain?
> >>> Where do I find the is domain name/number? When I do an ipconfig on
> >>> the answering computer, I get: Connection-specific DNS Suffix :
> >>> domain_not_set.invalid Is that okay? or can/should I set it? How?
> >>> Once set, is that the domain I use to login from dialup?
>
> >> Note that this has nothing to do with ethernet. This is a Windows
> >> question.
>
> >> That said, the "domain" you are looking for is the name of the XP
> >> machine.
>
> >> M4
>
> > This didn't work. what am I missing?
>
> mostly all the details of what you are doing..... this time -
>
> so... now you are attempting to "dial" from a Win98 computer
> to your Win XP computer.

Yes, to learn about this.

> ok - one at a time -
>
> WinXP host - what is there to "answer" the call & connect ?
> What software configuration is used to setup the "answer" and "login" to the
> computer ?

Here are the requested details, but after carefully going through all
this documenting, I tried one more thing and got this part to work.
My password was blank and that is not acceptable.
So with a password,
THIS PART WORKS.
(Skip to bottom for next question - I will leave all this in for the
next person who may be helped by my struggles.)

Please forgive me for my irritating questions.
I am trying to learn some basics before I get back to the camera
setup.
I realize that there are a host of things that I don't understand.

I am at home and have built a very simple telephone exchange simulator
only for the purpose of experimenting and learning since I don't have
two phone lines into my house and don't want to order another line
just to experiment with. It works. That is I can call one computer
from the other one using hyperterminal and the two modems do connect
and I can type on one computer and it goes to the other and vice
versa. Do you really need to know that? No, but if you're interested I
can elaborate. It provides "battery" of 40 volts (below the nominal 48
or my actual tel line of 53.6, but it is enough) at the push of a
button it provides 350Hz to the dialing computer to simulate a dial
tone (which is supposed to be 350Hz plus 440Hz, but again it works.
Once I hear the dialing, I push another button that provides 60Hz at
70VAC to the other modem for ring voltage, I would prefer 20Hz, but
60Hz is acceptable within the ringer spec. And again it works. I push
the button twice for two rings and when I hear the first handshake
tone, I flip a toggle switch to connect the two and the modems do the
rest.

Now for my next attempt at learning I don't use hyperterminal.

I set up on the (answering) WinXP computer:
Control Panel
Network Connections
Create a new connection
[Next]
Set up an advanced connection
[Next]
Accept incoming connections
[Next]
[check] Conexant D480 MDC V.9x Modem (the only item on list)
Properties (used defaults)
[Next]
Allow virtual private connections (selected)
(Is this what I want even though I am not using the Internet in
this phase?)
[Next]
Users allowed to connect
(<my_user_name> is checked)
(Is this the name I use to logon with? The password is blank.)
[properties]
Full Name <same as user name>
[Callback Tab]
Do not allow callback (selected)
[Next]
[Start drop list]
- TCP/IP is checked
[properties]
"Allow callers to access my local area network" is checked.
What do I want for TCP/IP assignment? I have tried both.
At the moment I have specify checked with from: 10.0.0.10 To:
10.0.0.20
(I have no idea what the range is for. I just followed an
example from the Internet.)
Do I want calling computer to specify its own address?
- "File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks" is checked.
[No properties]
(The next 4 are checked in gray boxes. Why gray?)
- Odyssey Network Agent is checked but the only active button below
it is "Install..." (What is this?)
[No properties]
- Client for Microsoft networks is checked in gray box.
[properties]
RPC Server Windows Locator is selected.
(only other option is DCE Cell Directory Service - Don't think
I need that.)
Network Address is blank and gray.
- QoS Packet Scheduler
[No properties]
- Microsoft TCP/IP Version 6
[No Properties]

> Win98 client - what is used to dial out ?
> Are you dialing your XP computer directly,
> or attempting to dial into the Internet, and then connect to your XP
> computer ?
> Have you configured the Dial Up Networking (DUN) for the connection ?
> or are you using some other software to initiate the call to the host ?

Dialing directly via my TelCo Simulator.
(Don't be troubled about that unless you have good reason to be.)

Not using any other SW, just the DUN.

Windows Explorer
Dial Up Networking
Make New Connection
Type a name for the computer you are dialing: "DELL1150"
Select a device: "HSP56 MR" (selected)
(only other item on list is "Microsoft VPN Adapter" (Don't want
this. Right?)
[Configure]
No changes - all default setting
[Next]
Phone number fields are all filled in (but they are ignored by my
simulator)
[Next]
[Finish]

Then I start the dial up and type in the user name, (password is
blank) and the domain is DELL1150
The username is the same as I use to logon to WinXP (no password)
It immediately comes back and I try it again, then it says:
"Error 691: The computer you have dialed in to has denied access
because the username and/or password is invalid on the domain."
And then the two computers hang up the line(s).

Next try
added a password and all works.

So I have learned that I must set and use a password.

Now I can ping the 10.0.0.10 and 10.0.0.11 addresses.
Can I now get access, like with a browser to my network? Or am I
dreaming?

Thanks for your patience,

Harvey

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