Toshiba PCX2600 cable modem?

Toshiba PCX2600 cable modem?

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Toshiba PCX2600 cable modem? Timothy Daniels 10-04-2005
Posted by Timothy Daniels on October 4, 2005, 10:26 pm
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I've read the announcement that the Tochiba PCX2600
cable modem passed the Cable Labs' DOSCSIS 2.0
certification test (see
http://www.toshiba.com/taisnpd/products/pcx2600.html),
but although they seem to have hit the market, judging
from google hits on commentary, they seem not to be
offerred for sale anywhere now. Have they been recalled?
Anyone have info?

*TimDaniels*


Posted by Warren on October 4, 2005, 11:34 pm


Timothy Daniels wrote:
> I've read the announcement that the Tochiba PCX2600
> cable modem passed the Cable Labs' DOSCSIS 2.0
> certification test (see
> http://www.toshiba.com/taisnpd/products/pcx2600.html),
> but although they seem to have hit the market, judging
> from google hits on commentary, they seem not to be
> offerred for sale anywhere now. Have they been recalled?
> Anyone have info?

My guess would be that Toshiba didn't invest in a larger first production
run than what they needed to get certified. After that, it's a matter of
finding distributors and major retailers who want to carry it, which may not
be very easy to do until either Comcast and/or RoadRunner start offering
rebates on the modem to entice new customers. And right now, there are
plenty of other products competing for Christmas season shelf space -- and
many of the decisions have already been made. Until Toshiba gets enough
pre-orders from the distributors and major retailers, they probably won't
start another production run. I wouldn't expect that to happen until
January -- assuming that Comcast and/or RoadRunner come through with some
rebates. Maybe you'll see them in the online stores before then, but why
should it matter? Marketing copy at the Toshiba website, and reviews from
paid reviewers and reviewers who never saw a product they didn't like aside,
there's nothing special about yet another DOCSIS 2.0 modem.

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Posted by Timothy Daniels on October 5, 2005, 10:12 am



"Warren" wrote:
> Timothy Daniels wrote:
>> I've read the announcement that the Tochiba PCX2600
>> cable modem passed the Cable Labs' DOSCSIS 2.0
>> certification test (see
>> http://www.toshiba.com/taisnpd/products/pcx2600.html),
>> but although they seem to have hit the market, judging
>> from google hits on commentary, they seem not to be
>> offerred for sale anywhere now. Have they been recalled?
>> Anyone have info?
>
> My guess would be that Toshiba didn't invest in a larger first
> production run than what they needed to get certified. After that,
> it's a matter of finding distributors and major retailers who want
> to carry it, which may not be very easy to do until either Comcast
> and/or RoadRunner start offering rebates on the modem to
> entice new customers. And right now, there are plenty of other
> products competing for Christmas season shelf space -- and
> many of the decisions have already been made. Until Toshiba
> gets enough pre-orders from the distributors and major retailers,
> they probably won't start another production run. I wouldn't expect
> that to happen until January -- assuming that Comcast and/or
> RoadRunner come through with some rebates. Maybe you'll see
> them in the online stores before then, but why should it matter?
> Marketing copy at the Toshiba website, and reviews from paid
> reviewers and reviewers who never saw a product they didn't like
> aside, there's nothing special about yet another DOCSIS 2.0 modem.


....unless it has a lower price than Motorola and D-Link, whose
prices seem to have risen back to levels seen earlier this year.
Fortunately, I can wait. Thanks for the insight.

*TimDaniels*


Posted by on October 7, 2005, 1:30 pm


On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:12:40 -0700, "Timothy Daniels"


> ....unless it has a lower price than Motorola and D-Link, whose
> prices seem to have risen back to levels seen earlier this year.
> Fortunately, I can wait. Thanks for the insight.

Tim,
You're going to be waiting for a ship that has already sailed. The
PCX2600 has already come and gone. Toshiba has gotten out of the cable
modem business.

After much research I decided that was the model I wanted, though, so
I hit eBay and found one at a great price. If you buy one you'll be
pleased. There are no bugs or deficiencies in either the hardware or
the firmware. You just won't ever find one in a retail or online store
unless you find a place that has some old stock.

If my PCX2600 died tomorrow I'd move heaven and earth to find another
one.

And what some people say about all DOCSIS modems being alike is not
true. Some have troublesome ethernet ports that cause glitches hooked
up to some routers. Some lock up or reboot under heavy loads like
BitTorrent. Some are victim to lots of line errors. Some have hardware
problems like the RCA modems that have troublesome power connectors
that develop shorts.

Some say you can't go wrong with a Motorola. I almost bought one. At
the last minute though I thought it'd be wise to call my ISP and ask
them what they recommended to be used on their network. Their reply
was "Buy anything except a Motorola. We have had an extraordinarily
high amount of service calls & trouble tickets with those."

So, thank you very much, but I'll stick with the PCX2600 till it's
rendered obsolete.


Posted by Timothy Daniels on October 7, 2005, 12:02 pm


> "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>
>
>> ....unless it has a lower price than Motorola and D-Link,
>> whose prices seem to have risen back to levels seen
>> earlier this year. Fortunately, I can wait. Thanks for
>> the insight.
>
> Tim,
> You're going to be waiting for a ship that has already sailed.
> The PCX2600 has already come and gone. Toshiba has
> gotten out of the cable modem business.
>
> After much research I decided that was the model I wanted,
> though, so I hit eBay and found one at a great price. If you buy
> one you'll be pleased. There are no bugs or deficiencies in
> either the hardware or the firmware. You just won't ever find
> one in a retail or online store unless you find a place that has
> some old stock.
>
> If my PCX2600 died tomorrow I'd move heaven and earth to
> find another one.
>
> And what some people say about all DOCSIS modems being
> alike is not true. Some have troublesome ethernet ports that
> cause glitches hooked up to some routers. Some lock up or
> reboot under heavy loads like BitTorrent. Some are victim to
> lots of line errors. Some have hardware problems like the RCA
> modems that have troublesome power connectors
> that develop shorts.
>
> Some say you can't go wrong with a Motorola. I almost bought
> one. At the last minute though I thought it'd be wise to call my ISP
> and ask them what they recommended to be used on their network.
> Their reply was "Buy anything except a Motorola. We have had an
> extraordinarily high amount of service calls & trouble tickets with
> those."
>
> So, thank you very much, but I'll stick with the PCX2600 till it's
> rendered obsolete.


Thanks for the info. I was wondering why the prices for the
D-Link and Motorola cable modems had drifted back up to
their initial prices seen in July. Maybe the expected competi-
tion from Toshiba was what brought them down, and their
prices will stay up for a while until another manufacturer
introduces a DOCSIS 2.0 cable modem. I also wonder if the
high recall rate seen with Motorolas by your ISP was with the
SB5100 model - the one with the Broadcom chipset. Maybe
that's why Motorola later went with the Texas Instruments chipset
for their SB5120, a model that has identical features as described
on Motorola's website. Right now, the only feature that leans me
toward the Motorola is the quick disconnect button on the top
that allows one to quickly disconnect if there appears to be
unexpected internet traffic occurring (spyware?, spambot?
virusmail?). Do you know if any of the other DOCSIS 2.0 cable
modems sport such a "panic" button?

*TimDaniels*


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