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Posted by on May 8, 2005, 4:43 pm
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John Dvorak has an article entitled "The Coming Death of Cheap VOIP" in
PC Magazine's May 24th, 2005 issue. He mentions that the telcos will
soon sniff out Skype-like traffic on their networks, and make it
unusable, thereby forcing you to use the telco's VOIP service, or none
at all.
Rather than debate the accuracy of what Dvorak said, I was wondering if
any of you truly tech-savvy guys know whether there are ways to get
around such technical roadblocks (such as encrypting VOIP traffic?).
Thanks.
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Posted by R-Guy on May 9, 2005, 5:40 am
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> John Dvorak has an article entitled "The Coming Death of Cheap VOIP" in
> PC Magazine's May 24th, 2005 issue. He mentions that the telcos will
> soon sniff out Skype-like traffic on their networks, and make it
> unusable, thereby forcing you to use the telco's VOIP service, or none
> at all.
>
> Rather than debate the accuracy of what Dvorak said, I was wondering if
> any of you truly tech-savvy guys know whether there are ways to get
> around such technical roadblocks (such as encrypting VOIP traffic?).
> Thanks.
>
Not all ISPs are telcos - I would just switch to an Internet provider that
doesn't play games.
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Posted by wkearney99 on May 9, 2005, 9:54 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > > He mentions that the telcos will
> > soon sniff out Skype-like traffic on their networks, and make it
> > unusable, thereby forcing you to use the telco's VOIP service, or none
> > at all.
>
> Not all ISPs are telcos - I would just switch to an Internet provider that
> doesn't play games.
Correct. When ISPs have attempted to block only certain forms of traffic
their customers leave. That and the courts have ruled against ISPs that
have tried forcing it on customers. Basically, the market rules and
customers will walk if their supplier tries fucking with them.
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Posted by Cloaked on May 9, 2005, 2:47 pm
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I used to be with Telus for ADSL service. But what is the point of
switching to VOIP - which Telus does NOT offer - if you still have to
maintain a POTS line to get your ADSL (and get your VOIP)????
I have switched to Shaw for high speed bundled with Cable. I have
connected to a VOIP provider, and sent the "Port" request for my phone
number.
Telus does not need to worry about blocking my VOIP traffic any more.
Within 3 to 4 weeks, Telus will no longer provide me with ANY form of
service. :)
The reconfiguration and switch is a net saving of between $45 to $65
per month. This is too large a figure to ignore. AND I get better long
distance rates with my VOIP provider than I EVER did with Telus.
The death of cheap VOIP is likely to come when Telus and other telcos
start bitching and the damn government steps in and starts
"regualting" them. This will drive up the costs for the VOIP service
providers, and they are more than likely to pass on those costs.
What we need to do is pay atttention, and when the government starts
considering regualtion - wirte EVERYONE! Write the CRTC and tell them
to f-off and leave VOIP alone, write your MP and tell him or her that
you DO NOT WANT government involvement in this industry any more.
Regulation was required when telephony was a scarce resource. This is
no longer true. The original reasons for regulation no longer exist.
Ongoing government interference in the market place is not welcome,
and unless you tell them so - LOUDLY - then it is only a matter of
time before they try to find a way to screw the VOIP providers at the
hands of telcos who refuse to step out from behind the shield and
compete in an open market.
Just my $0.02
On 8 May 2005 16:43:51 -0700, pjsmoot@hotmail.com wrote:
>John Dvorak has an article entitled "The Coming Death of Cheap VOIP" in
>PC Magazine's May 24th, 2005 issue. He mentions that the telcos will
>soon sniff out Skype-like traffic on their networks, and make it
>unusable, thereby forcing you to use the telco's VOIP service, or none
>at all.
>
>Rather than debate the accuracy of what Dvorak said, I was wondering if
>any of you truly tech-savvy guys know whether there are ways to get
>around such technical roadblocks (such as encrypting VOIP traffic?).
>Thanks.
>
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Posted by wkearney99 on May 9, 2005, 11:24 pm
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > Regulation was required when telephony was a scarce resource. This is
> no longer true. The original reasons for regulation no longer exist.
Bullshit. Tell that to the family living out in the middle of nowhere.
Someone's got to maintain the copper wiring plant for their basic phone
services. That's a direct result of regulation and should continue.
To blindly call it 'interference' shows a distinct lack of understanding
about the entire range of issues.
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