[Telecom] cancellation of phone service

[Telecom] cancellation of phone service

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[Telecom] cancellation of phone service Rick Merrill 02-18-2008
Posted by Rick Merrill on February 18, 2008, 11:14 pm
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Isn't there a law (Fed, MA) that prohibits turning off someone phone,
even for non-payment, without due process of some sort, especially if
the person is over 62?

Now, what if that person uses VoIP and forgot to pay their internet
bill? Do the same rules apply and how is it enforced?


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Posted by on February 19, 2008, 5:13 pm
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wrote:
> Isn't there a law (Fed, MA) that prohibits turning off someone phone,
> even for non-payment, without due process of some sort, especially if
> the person is over 62?

I don't think there is any law on age. There may be a law if the
person is disabled.

Laws on this vary by state, as does programs to subsidize phone bills
for those who can't afford them.

I would suggest you look in the front section of your local phone
directory. There are usually details on all the rules about service
and disconnection and what due process there might be. If you are in
dispute with them, mail them stuff via Certified Mail and keep copies
of correspondance.


I had a b**** of a time with them over my mother's phone service. She
was unpaid, but the phoneco wouldn't talk to me, _only_ to her and
she was ill. I couldn't find out how much she owed or where to mail
it to. One day she was able to talk, give them her password, and give
them permission for me to represent them.



> Now, what if that person uses VoIP and forgot to pay their internet
> bill? Do the same rules apply and how is it enforced?

AFAIK there aren't any protections for Internet service or VOIP.
Whatever protections there are usually apply just to what they define
as 'basic' service.


Posted by Rick Merrill on February 20, 2008, 8:29 pm
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hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> wrote:
>> Isn't there a law (Fed, MA) that prohibits turning off someone phone,
>> even for non-payment, without due process of some sort, especially if
>> the person is over 62?
>
> I don't think there is any law on age. There may be a law if the
> person is disabled.
>
> Laws on this vary by state, as does programs to subsidize phone bills
> for those who can't afford them.
>
> I would suggest you look in the front section of your local phone
> directory. There are usually details on all the rules about service
> and disconnection and what due process there might be. If you are in
> dispute with them, mail them stuff via Certified Mail and keep copies
> of correspondance.
>
>
> I had a b**** of a time with them over my mother's phone service. She
> was unpaid, but the phoneco wouldn't talk to me, _only_ to her and
> she was ill. I couldn't find out how much she owed or where to mail
> it to. One day she was able to talk, give them her password, and give
> them permission for me to represent them.
>
>
>
>> Now, what if that person uses VoIP and forgot to pay their internet
>> bill? Do the same rules apply and how is it enforced?
>
> AFAIK there aren't any protections for Internet service or VOIP.
> Whatever protections there are usually apply just to what they define
> as 'basic' service.
>

In my opinion These laws now apply to ISP companies when customers have
VoIP in MA.

- Rick Merrill

http://www.mass.gov/Eoca/docs/dte/cmr/220cmr2500.pdf

[partial exerpt:]
25.05: Termination of Service to Elderly Persons

(1) Identifying Elderly Persons. Each company shall devise procedures
and methods reasonably designed to identify, before termination of
service for non-payment, accounts affecting households in which all
residents are 65 years of age or older. Such procedures shall be
submitted by each company in writing to the Department. The Department
may require, by written notification, such modifications of the
company's procedures as it considers reasonably necessary to carry out
the purposes of M.G.L. c. 164, ' 124E and M.G.L. c. 165, ' 1B and of
220 CMR 25.00.

(2) Third Party Notification. If a customer 65 years of age or older
so desires, the company shall provide to a third person designated by
such customer notification of all past due bills [see 220 CMR
25.02(1)], notices of termination of service, and notices of right to
a hearing at before the Department. In no event shall the third party
so notified be liable for the account of the customer. Each company
shall devise procedures reasonably designed to provide a voluntary
system of third party notification for all customers 65 years of age
or older. Such procedures shall be submitted by each company in
writing to the Department. The Department may require, by a written
notification, such modifications of a company's procedures as it
considers reasonably necessary to carry out the purposes of M.G.L. c.
164, ' 124E and M.G.L. c. 165, ' 1B and of 220 CMR 25.00.


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