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Spam? Martin E. Zulliger 09-24-2005
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| `--> Re: Spam? Ivor Jones09-25-2005
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---> Re: Spam? Miguel Cruz09-25-2005
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`--> Re: Spam? Martin E. Zulli ..09-26-2005
Posted by Martin E. Zulliger on September 24, 2005, 7:17 pm
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Hi everyone,

I have a deep but yet simple question to everyone: when a post is
considered spam and when it isnt?

Cuz sometimes I see people advertising their products (which, to my
understanding, is called "spam") and everyone is happy. And sometimes I
see people posting the same kind of advertising and they receive a
stream of complains and flames... This confuses my simple and logical
mind :)

Thanks!
Martin


Posted by on September 24, 2005, 5:36 pm
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Sounds like turing machine logic
My thinking is if information is relevant to it's surroundings than it
may not be classified as spam.
What I don't understand is why this original question would come up in
a voip group and not a semantics group ? maybe this is my
overanalytical endlessley curious mind : )



Posted by Martin E. Zulliger on September 25, 2005, 1:09 am
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Hahaha good point, well I guess since in a semantics group... nobody
does spam! What would they advertise? Well hmmm they can advertise
books, possibly, but that wouldnt be semantics, but rather literature...
anyway, thats not my point.

My point is since in THIS group, people post stuff that contains
advertising in some way, sometimes its treated as spam and sometimes its
not, and yeah in both cases its VoIP related.

Let's put it with an example, if I am a carrier and I post a message:
Visit my website there you got cheap rates and cool stuff, etc, etc.
Would that be considered spam?

ekstesi@gmail.com wrote:
> Sounds like turing machine logic
> My thinking is if information is relevant to it's surroundings than it
> may not be classified as spam.
> What I don't understand is why this original question would come up in
> a voip group and not a semantics group ? maybe this is my
> overanalytical endlessley curious mind : )
>


Posted by Ivor Jones on September 25, 2005, 10:39 am
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> Hahaha good point, well I guess since in a semantics
> group... nobody does spam! What would they advertise?
> Well hmmm they can advertise books, possibly, but that
> wouldnt be semantics, but rather literature... anyway,
> thats not my point.
> My point is since in THIS group, people post stuff that
> contains advertising in some way, sometimes its treated
> as spam and sometimes its not, and yeah in both cases its
> VoIP related.
> Let's put it with an example, if I am a carrier and I
> post a message: Visit my website there you got cheap
> rates and cool stuff, etc, etc. Would that be considered
> spam?

If it's a group that does not permit advertising, yes. Most groups have a
charter, check it out before posting.

Ivor




Posted by Martin E. Zulliger on September 25, 2005, 1:18 am
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And by the way, Im not calling "spammer" to anyone. I really don't care
what people do they're free to do whatever they want I wont complain.

This is since Ive noticed you posted an ad today, Im not calling you
spammer, actually I believe what you did is a legal and logical way to
let people know about your services, etc. I just wanna know when do
people in this group would consider something is spam and when it isnt.
So please dont take it as I am against you, all the opposite, I agree
with you! (Yeah man, we're all friends :)

Basically I just wanna know the "dos" and "donts", in case I wanna
advertise something :)

ekstesi@gmail.com wrote:
> Sounds like turing machine logic
> My thinking is if information is relevant to it's surroundings than it
> may not be classified as spam.
> What I don't understand is why this original question would come up in
> a voip group and not a semantics group ? maybe this is my
> overanalytical endlessley curious mind : )
>


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