Re: satellite phone [Telecom]

Re: satellite phone [Telecom]

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Re: satellite phone [Telecom] Redacted@Invalid.nc.rr.com 07-18-2008
Posted by Redacted@Invalid.nc.rr.com on July 18, 2008, 11:52 pm
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Scott Dorsey wrote:

>

>>If the NSA "revealed" that they can track a satphone, it might
>>really be true, in which case they're incredibly stupid, or they did
>>it to convince the opposition that it should never use electronic
>>devices and, therefore, must construct and maintain a cumbersome,
>>error-prone, delay-ridden chain of human couriers, all of which
>>would be traceable using photo-reconnaissance

>I believe that other DoD agencies have revealed that the NSA can
>track satphones. These other agencies behaved in a manner that I
>would characterize as incredibly stupid. This has pissed the NSA
>off. Oh well, maybe we'll do better in the next war.

Methinks you gentlemen are wringing your hands over nothing. This
particular horse had left the barn long before most people had ever
heard of al Qaeda on 9/11. As Dave Garland mentioned in an earlier
posting, it was already well-publicized that the Russians had used
this method to kill a Chechen leader years before. The target in
question was actually the elected (and eventually separatist) Chechen
president Djokhar Dudayev, killed in 1996. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar-Dudayev#Death-and-legacy for
more details.

As someone who used to follow post-Soviet news and politics closely, I
distinctly remember the triumphant news reports from the Russian
government, basically bragging about having located Dudayev by
tracking his satellite phone transmissions. Any half-competent
terrorist would surely have become aware of this vulnerability
following that episode. (Not that there aren't some stupid terrorists
out there. IIRC, one of the Madrid train bombers was oh-so-careful to
keep switching phones in order to avoid detection by authorities. But
his method was to repeatedly move his SIM card from one handset to
another, which meant that he really wasn't covering his tracks at
all.)

Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

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Posted by Bill Horne on July 19, 2008, 7:53 am
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Redacted@Invalid.nc.rr.com wrote:
> The target in
> question was actually the elected (and eventually separatist) Chechen
> president Djokhar Dudayev, killed in 1996. See
> more details.

The URL in that message should have been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_Dudayev#Death_and_legacy .


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