Re: [Telecom] 911 foul up may have cost a life

Re: [Telecom] 911 foul up may have cost a life

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Re: [Telecom] 911 foul up may have cost a life hancock4 12-08-2007
Posted by on December 8, 2007, 9:39 am
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> That is why you have a STATE wide E-911 system. But then here in RI we
> don't really pay much attention to county's except for the judicial
> system having branches in Providence, Newport and Washington counties.

My 911 is run by the county, not the state. Except for very small
states, I can't see a 911 system being statewide because it would be
too big and bulky with far too many public safety units. States may
help counties/municipalities/districts with their 911 systems, but I'd
be surprised if there are statewide systems. (If there are, please
share details).


> The E-911 here is a government entity, not an entity owned by Verizon.
> That helps a lot

I don't understand what you mean. AFAIK, everything about 911 is
owned and operated by the govt, not the local phoneco. The local
phoneco may provide the incoming lines, ANI, and the number-address
translation table, but that's it.

I will note that years ago Bell System operators acted as unofficial
"911" front ends in that subscribers were instructed they could tell
the 0-operator the details of an emergency if they couldn't stay on
the line. The Bell System was once very proud of their operators who
assisted in emergencies and publicized it. Now of course they do
everything to discourage people from dialing 0 for any reason.


Posted by T on December 8, 2007, 11:09 pm
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@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>
> > That is why you have a STATE wide E-911 system. But then here in RI we
> > don't really pay much attention to county's except for the judicial
> > system having branches in Providence, Newport and Washington counties.
>
> My 911 is run by the county, not the state. Except for very small
> states, I can't see a 911 system being statewide because it would be
> too big and bulky with far too many public safety units. States may
> help counties/municipalities/districts with their 911 systems, but I'd
> be surprised if there are statewide systems. (If there are, please
> share details).

There's no reason you couldn't have a hierarchical setup for E-911
services in a large state. Make all calls go to state, which then
transfers automatically to county or city level based upon the Intrado
database lookup.

>
> > The E-911 here is a government entity, not an entity owned by Verizon.
> > That helps a lot
>
> I don't understand what you mean. AFAIK, everything about 911 is
> owned and operated by the govt, not the local phoneco. The local
> phoneco may provide the incoming lines, ANI, and the number-address
> translation table, but that's it.
>
> I will note that years ago Bell System operators acted as unofficial
> "911" front ends in that subscribers were instructed they could tell
> the 0-operator the details of an emergency if they couldn't stay on
> the line. The Bell System was once very proud of their operators who
> assisted in emergencies and publicized it. Now of course they do
> everything to discourage people from dialing 0 for any reason.

Dialing 0 on Vonage gets you nothing at all.


Posted by Sam Spade on December 9, 2007, 1:38 pm
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T wrote:

> Dialing 0 on Vonage gets you nothing at all.
>

One of many reasons Vonage should not replace a wireline presense;
rather it should be a supplement.


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