Re: How Sticky Are CableModem AUPs?

Re: How Sticky Are CableModem AUPs?

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Re: How Sticky Are CableModem AUPs? Charles Newman 09-20-2006
Posted by Charles Newman on September 20, 2006, 5:37 pm
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> I have Charter Cablemodem access. Like most any broadband provider
> they mention 'no webservers, no ftp servers, no gameservers" etc. Just
> *how* closely do they watch this?

There might be a way. In the one thread about Comcast
blocking incoming ports, one guy mentioned Tor, I have checked
it out, and it appears that Tor will let you run a "hidden" web
site, though that part of the software looks complicated. I do
know that you would have to bind the IP settings of whatever
web server software you use either to 127.0.0.1, or to the
address of your router (if you have one). It appears that users
would enter an address in the Tor network, which would
forward to your "hidden" server, and back again. Since
the server itself would only be seen by the Tor software, any
routine scans of your system would show nothing. Tor takes
all the user hits, and acts merely as the relay. Tor just goes
to the directory you specify and fetches the web page, and
sends it back to the users on Tor that are requesitng it, from
what I can tell. The more than 10,000 servers on the Tor
network would take all the hits, instead of your Web server
and/or Charter Pipeline.

Its also a good way to shield you from script kiddies, who
might try and compromise your Web server. In other
words, your Web site could not be compromised by
hackers. As the saying goes "what cannot be seen cannot
be hacked".



Posted by Bill M. on September 20, 2006, 10:30 pm
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:37:52 -0700, "Charles Newman"

>There might be a way. In the one thread about Comcast
>blocking incoming ports, one guy mentioned Tor, I have checked
>it out, and it appears that Tor will let you run a "hidden" web
>site, though that part of the software looks complicated. I do
>know that you would have to bind the IP settings of whatever
>web server software you use either to 127.0.0.1, or to the
>address of your router (if you have one). It appears that users
>would enter an address in the Tor network, which would
>forward to your "hidden" server, and back again. Since
>the server itself would only be seen by the Tor software, any
>routine scans of your system would show nothing. Tor takes
>all the user hits, and acts merely as the relay. Tor just goes
>to the directory you specify and fetches the web page, and
>sends it back to the users on Tor that are requesitng it, from
>what I can tell. The more than 10,000 servers on the Tor
>network would take all the hits, instead of your Web server
>and/or Charter Pipeline.

Umm, no, the hits to your web server and your ISP's network are the
same regardless of whether you stick a proxy such as Tor in front.

>Its also a good way to shield you from script kiddies, who
>might try and compromise your Web server. In other
>words, your Web site could not be compromised by
>hackers. As the saying goes "what cannot be seen cannot
>be hacked".

That's one of the big problems with running a (web) server on a
non-standard port, the false sense of security. It takes longer to
scan a large port range than it does to scan a smaller port range, but
it's not as if we're talking about manual labor here. Not only that,
Tor's web site describes security through obscurity, which is nothing
to be proud of.


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other useful resources:
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
Telecommunications Industry Association
Electronic and Software Security Products and Services
International Telecommunication Union

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