Re: Dial-up holdouts ask: Why go to broadband?

Re: Dial-up holdouts ask: Why go to broadband?

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Re: Dial-up holdouts ask: Why go to broadband? Peter Pan 09-05-2007
Posted by Robert Redelmeier on September 6, 2007, 10:06 am
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> Actually, I haven't heard it in quite that form. What I
> usually hear is something like, "broadband costs about
> 3 times as much as dialup. Will I get more than 3 times
> the fun/features/functionality on broadband as dialup?"
> I guess there are those that don't mind staring at the
> download indicator for 3 times as long.

If they download that much. My mom is still on dialup and
during a recent visit I found it perfectly adequate for her
low email volume and even my ssh sessions. It _is_ slow for
browsing today's heavyweight webpages. But she doesn't do
that more than a few times per week!

> A demonstration of fast browsing, online music, video,
> gaming, downloading, updates, and such are usually
> insufficient. What always gets their attention is Skype,
> GizmoProject, X-Lite or other VoIP phone.

She doesn't care about VoIP since she has excellent and inexpensive
voice service. My godmother is even worse: she has neither
computer nor any email account. I'm not sure she really needs them.
Her interests are her grandkids and I doubt the greater quantity
of traffic via email/IM would be any compensation of the loss of
emotional contact via voice and in-person. She doesn't have data to
transmit, and I don't think email would be "a way in". Kids aren't
very patient and [grand]parents a [necessary] intrusion.

-- Robert


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Posted by NotMe on September 7, 2007, 2:26 pm
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"Jeff Liebermann"

| >I don't mind at all the grand brats getting involved (and screwing up the
| >systems) as that means they are physically visiting. Even if there is no
| >real conversation the old folk do get a great kick out of the grand kids
and
| >others just being there. I have one former Marine DI that gets a real
kick
| >out of playing the Pony Lov game with his 7 y.o. grand daughter.
| >
| >He had me set up two user names. One for his private use that is PW
| >protected and one for when his grand kids visit. FWIW the 7 y.o, gave
the
| >old guy a WebKin doll so they can 'play' remotely.
|
| Nice. Abandonment by the relatives is a common problem. It's part of
| the American way of aging and it sucks. I've been there myself and
| can't offer any simple solution. I can fix the computers, but not the
| relatives.

The inability to address the abandonment by friends and relatives is one of
the reason me and mine (me/the wife/kids and grand kids) are involved with
Hospice. ( I recommend to all to check into the local program and at least
take the Hospice orientation classes. Not everyone is made out to do the
work but taking the classes will give one a clear look into themselves.)

A side comment: through my Hospice work I've met and become friends with men
who were on Iow Jima, Battan, flew B17s over Germany, P40s in China, were
crew with Dolittle, landed on the beaches in Normandy, etc. Even if the
stories were embellished by 50 years of selective memory the hearing was an
enormous experience for me. The stories told by the ladies that stayed home
were another eye opener. Stories from Korea and NAM were not quite so
pleasant but deserved the telling and the hearing. I expect before long to
be dealing with Gulf War vets and their families.



Posted by (PeteCresswell) on September 8, 2007, 12:14 pm
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Per NotMe:
>A side comment: through my Hospice work I've met and become friends with men
>who were on Iow Jima, Battan, flew B17s over Germany, P40s in China....

It's probably too late for them, but my reaction to a few (*very*
few... but nonetheless...) similar experiences is that I really
wish I'd recorded the conversations. Back then, it would have
been a challenge, but now with compact digital video cams... or
even a video-capable cell phone....
--
PeteCresswell

Posted by NotMe on September 8, 2007, 1:20 pm
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| Per NotMe:
| >A side comment: through my Hospice work I've met and become friends with
men
| >who were on Iow Jima, Battan, flew B17s over Germany, P40s in China....
|
| It's probably too late for them, but my reaction to a few (*very*
| few... but nonetheless...) similar experiences is that I really
| wish I'd recorded the conversations. Back then, it would have
| been a challenge, but now with compact digital video cams... or
| even a video-capable cell phone....

Under the protocols for Hospice (NDA), lacking a specific written release, I
can't disclose what we talk about.

Part of what allows the patent to talk about these things is a clear
understanding on my part about the nature of our relationship with regard to
the NDA.

I expect that even asking would shut the gate for many of my friends. (By
that time we are friends)






Posted by NotMe on September 11, 2007, 10:58 pm
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|
| Surely one of the best reasons for having a dial-up account is that
| your computer is less likely to be attacked by "evil hackers", since
| with broadband your computer is connected to the internet all the
| time. Even if dial-up is slower, that is relatively unimportant
|
They make ON/OFF switches to address that eventuality.



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