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Powerline modem Gireesh 02-07-2005
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Posted by Gireesh on February 7, 2005, 4:35 am
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Hi all,
I'm engaged in designing a powerline modem. and i'm in search of a
perfect IC for that.
I found HCPL800J DAA with DSP56F801 PLM ?
Is there any one who worked on this ?
Can abnybody suggest me better ICs ?
I need a range of atleat 1 km and the application is Automatic meter
reading


Posted by Rick Merrill on February 7, 2005, 9:37 am


Gireesh wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm engaged in designing a powerline modem. and i'm in search of a
> perfect IC for that.
> I found HCPL800J DAA with DSP56F801 PLM ?
> Is there any one who worked on this ?
> Can abnybody suggest me better ICs ?
> I need a range of atleat 1 km and the application is Automatic meter
> reading

If you have a EE PHD from MIT, go for it. Do you realize that the high
fequency transmission characteristics of most peoples "powerline"
changes constantly and essentially randomly? - RM


Posted by Joerg on February 7, 2005, 11:00 pm


Hello Rick,

> If you have a EE PHD from MIT, go for it. Do you realize that the high
> fequency transmission characteristics of most peoples "powerline"
> changes constantly and essentially randomly? - RM


For power metering it seems that the OP only needs a very narrow channel
bandwidth. The challenge will be mostly in the analog and filter design
arena but it can be done. Then, of course, there are the transformers
that need to be bridged.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com


Posted by Jim Thompson on February 7, 2005, 4:27 pm


On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:00:32 GMT, Joerg

>Hello Rick,
>
>> If you have a EE PHD from MIT, go for it. Do you realize that the high
>> fequency transmission characteristics of most peoples "powerline"
>> changes constantly and essentially randomly? - RM
>
>
>For power metering it seems that the OP only needs a very narrow channel
>bandwidth. The challenge will be mostly in the analog and filter design
>arena but it can be done. Then, of course, there are the transformers
>that need to be bridged.
>
>Regards, Joerg
>
>http://www.analogconsultants.com

The two remote electric power measurement schemes I know of:

(1) RF transmitter at your meter, "neighborhood" receiver located on a
pole, then connection to phone lines.

(2) Modem connection between your meter and *your* phone line. Power
company polls your modem.

...Jim Thompson
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Posted by Don Lancaster on February 7, 2005, 6:02 pm


Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:00:32 GMT, Joerg
>
>
>>Hello Rick,
>>
>>
>>>If you have a EE PHD from MIT, go for it. Do you realize that the high
>>>fequency transmission characteristics of most peoples "powerline"
>>>changes constantly and essentially randomly? - RM
>>
>>
>>For power metering it seems that the OP only needs a very narrow channel
>>bandwidth. The challenge will be mostly in the analog and filter design
>>arena but it can be done. Then, of course, there are the transformers
>>that need to be bridged.
>>
>>Regards, Joerg
>>
>>http://www.analogconsultants.com
>
>
> The two remote electric power measurement schemes I know of:
>
> (1) RF transmitter at your meter, "neighborhood" receiver located on a
> pole, then connection to phone lines.
>
> (2) Modem connection between your meter and *your* phone line. Power
> company polls your modem.
>
> ...Jim Thompson

I guess I was involved in the earliest of powerline carrier
communications. Back in 1961 at Femco.

It did not work then and it will not work now.

Ferinstance, an ancient Diablo 630 printer has such a good noise filter
that it takes out any X-10 device within 200 feet.



--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

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