Passport 8606 Version 3.7.2.0 and SMLT

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Passport 8606 Version 3.7.2.0 and SMLT Jan Hugo Prins 02-10-2006
Posted by Jan Hugo Prins on February 10, 2006, 2:10 am
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Hello,

I have a bit of a problem here. I have 2 Passport 8606 core switches that
are interconnected with an IST MLT links. From these switches there are
several SMLT links running to Passport 1624 Distribution switches.
All those links are fiberlinks of 1 Gb. To one location this SMLT is build
with a Singlemode fiber and a Laserlink through the air (Laserbit Gigabit
Pinto).

Sometimes this Laserbit connection has some trouble due to fog etc and
this connection starts to break and come up again very fast after on
another. The result is that sometimes the Passport 8606 thinks it sees a
loop on this port and drops this connection. This would not be a problem
except that the moment this Laserbit connection drops the whole SMLT
sometimes stops transporting packets and the site that should be connected
is gone completly. Most of the times when this happens I have to
disconnect the laserbit from the network and the SMLT comes back online.

On the Passport 1624 the SMLT is connected to port 23 and 24 of the
switch.

Are there some known problems with SMLT links in the used firmware of the
Passport 8606 switch, if so, are there firmware revisions that fix this
problem?

Are there some other issues that I am not aware of that could result in
this configuration being instable?

Thanks a lot,
Jan Hugo Prins

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Posted by Julio Arruda on February 10, 2006, 12:17 pm
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Jan Hugo Prins wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a bit of a problem here. I have 2 Passport 8606 core switches that
> are interconnected with an IST MLT links. From these switches there are
> several SMLT links running to Passport 1624 Distribution switches.
> All those links are fiberlinks of 1 Gb. To one location this SMLT is build
> with a Singlemode fiber and a Laserlink through the air (Laserbit Gigabit
> Pinto).
>
> Sometimes this Laserbit connection has some trouble due to fog etc and
> this connection starts to break and come up again very fast after on
> another. The result is that sometimes the Passport 8606 thinks it sees a
> loop on this port and drops this connection. This would not be a problem
> except that the moment this Laserbit connection drops the whole SMLT
> sometimes stops transporting packets and the site that should be connected
> is gone completly. Most of the times when this happens I have to
> disconnect the laserbit from the network and the SMLT comes back online.

First of all, you may want to open a case with your support channel.
But..
From what I remember, there where some ways the 8600 could detect loops.
If you really don't have a loop in the port, I guess you could try to
disable these "detections", one by one, to see what is the trigger.
But, you would need first to see if this is the problem..

> On the Passport 1624 the SMLT is connected to port 23 and 24 of the
> switch.
> Are there some known problems with SMLT links in the used firmware of the
> Passport 8606 switch, if so, are there firmware revisions that fix this
> problem?

I've not used 3.7.2.0 with SMLT, but there are at least 2 minor releases
I saw in the field (3.7.2.1 and 3.7.2.2) using SMLT.
You may want to check at these release notes to see if they fix anything..
>
> Are there some other issues that I am not aware of that could result in
> this configuration being instable?

You may want to take a look at the log information, from both 8600s, to
isolate the problem.

In SMLT (also), if you have something preventing you from "detecting"
the failure, link failures may be a problem hard to isolate.

I've not checked the 16xx sw, but recent sw for the 8600, offer
something called VLACP to be able to detect failures "over
transmission", where the transmission equipament would be 'hiding' the
failure from the 8600.

Assuming the 8600 doesn't know the link went down, it would be still
sending traffic over the bit-bucket link, same thing would be possible
in the 16xx side ?
[], <O-O>

Posted by joe blow on February 13, 2006, 6:05 pm
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You should not have loops with SMLT. Disable STP on MLT ports.

> Hello,
>
> I have a bit of a problem here. I have 2 Passport 8606 core switches that
> are interconnected with an IST MLT links. From these switches there are
> several SMLT links running to Passport 1624 Distribution switches.
> All those links are fiberlinks of 1 Gb. To one location this SMLT is build
> with a Singlemode fiber and a Laserlink through the air (Laserbit Gigabit
> Pinto).
>
> Sometimes this Laserbit connection has some trouble due to fog etc and
> this connection starts to break and come up again very fast after on
> another. The result is that sometimes the Passport 8606 thinks it sees a
> loop on this port and drops this connection. This would not be a problem
> except that the moment this Laserbit connection drops the whole SMLT
> sometimes stops transporting packets and the site that should be connected
> is gone completly. Most of the times when this happens I have to
> disconnect the laserbit from the network and the SMLT comes back online.
>
> On the Passport 1624 the SMLT is connected to port 23 and 24 of the
> switch.
>
> Are there some known problems with SMLT links in the used firmware of the
> Passport 8606 switch, if so, are there firmware revisions that fix this
> problem?
>
> Are there some other issues that I am not aware of that could result in
> this configuration being instable?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Jan Hugo Prins



Posted by Jan Hugo Prins on February 15, 2006, 12:33 pm
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:05:38 +0000, joe blow wrote:

> You should not have loops with SMLT. Disable STP on MLT ports.

Just checked in the configuration and STP is disabled on the MLT ports, at
least in the Core routers (8606). Can't check the 1624 at the moment
because I don't have that config at my laptop. But a reference config that
should be about the same, for maybe some minor changes tells me that STP
might be enabled on the ports where the SMLT enters the 1624 (port 23 and
24).

# STP

disable stp
config stp version rstp
config stp maxage 20 hellotime 2 forwarddelay 15 priority 32768 txholdcount
                                                                3 fbpdu enable
config stp ports 1-24 cost auto edgeport false p2p auto priority 128 state
                                                                enable
enable stp

A few lines might be wrapped a little.

Anyway, could you tell me what the result of this setting could be? Could
this result in the problems that I'm experiencing? What does STP do
exactly that it results in this?

Jan Hugo


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