Ohms for 100Base-TX

Ohms for 100Base-TX

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Ohms for 100Base-TX Michelot 12-08-2007
Posted by Michelot on December 8, 2007, 6:45 pm
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Bonsoir,

In the section 21.7 802.3:2005, for 100Base-TX, we can see the column
"category 5 100 Ohm" and the column "150 Ohm" without the words
category 5 mentionned.

(1) Does that mean "category 5 150 Ohm" doesn't exist?

(2) For the 150 Ohm impedance, can 100Base-TX be used UTP, or just
STP?

Thanks for this information,
Michelot

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Posted by Rich Seifert on December 8, 2007, 7:54 pm
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> Bonsoir,
>
> In the section 21.7 802.3:2005, for 100Base-TX, we can see the column
> "category 5 100 Ohm" and the column "150 Ohm" without the words
> category 5 mentionned.
>
> (1) Does that mean "category 5 150 Ohm" doesn't exist?
>

Yes.

> (2) For the 150 Ohm impedance, can 100Base-TX be used UTP, or just
> STP?
>

In theory, one could use 150 Ohm UTP, but I don't think any such cable
is widely available. 150 Ohms is a common characteristic impedance of
shielded (or screened) twisted pair.

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Posted by Michelot on December 9, 2007, 3:12 pm
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Thanks Rich for your reply and your time, it helps me.

Could I take the opportunity to have your opinion for 2 questions?

(1) I realized that the family 100Base-T has included 100Base-FX. So
it is difficult to say that the T of 100Base-T is refering (in this
case) to "twisted pair". Can we consider that it is just an enlargment
ot the naming?

(2) For the 100 Mbit/s EFM, we have 100Base-LX10 and 100Base-BX10. I
suppose they have been IEEE approved with 802.3ah in 2004.

Have you heard of G.985 that also described, in march 2003, an optical
Ethernet 100 Mbit/s access? This is a specification for a
bidirectional transmission on a fiber, downlink 1480 to 1580 nm, and
uplink 1260 to 1360 nm.

It's curious for me that IEEE specifies, with 100Base-BX10, a similar
technology to ITU-T G.985, just one year later? Have you pleased some
information about that?

Thanks very much,
best regards,
Michelot

Posted by Rich Seifert on December 10, 2007, 10:46 am
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> Thanks Rich for your reply and your time, it helps me.
>
> Could I take the opportunity to have your opinion for 2 questions?
>
> (1) I realized that the family 100Base-T has included 100Base-FX. So
> it is difficult to say that the T of 100Base-T is refering (in this
> case) to "twisted pair". Can we consider that it is just an enlargment
> ot the naming?
>

Yes; a triumph of marketing over engineering. (The widespread success of
10BASE-T at the time we were developing the 100 Mb/s version made the
use of "100BASE-T" almost a foregone conclusion; the world instantly
understood what it was--a faster version of what they already had.)

> (2) For the 100 Mbit/s EFM, we have 100Base-LX10 and 100Base-BX10. I
> suppose they have been IEEE approved with 802.3ah in 2004.
>
> Have you heard of G.985 that also described, in march 2003, an optical
> Ethernet 100 Mbit/s access? This is a specification for a
> bidirectional transmission on a fiber, downlink 1480 to 1580 nm, and
> uplink 1260 to 1360 nm.
>
> It's curious for me that IEEE specifies, with 100Base-BX10, a similar
> technology to ITU-T G.985, just one year later? Have you pleased some
> information about that?
>

I have not been following the goings-on either in EFM or ITU G.985, so I
can't comment.

--
Rich Seifert Networks and Communications Consulting
21885 Bear Creek Way
(408) 395-5700 Los Gatos, CA 95033
(408) 228-0803 FAX

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Posted by Michelot on December 11, 2007, 11:46 am
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Bonsoir Rich,

> Yes; a triumph of marketing over engineering. (The widespread success of
> 10BASE-T at the time we were developing the 100 Mb/s version made the
> use of "100BASE-T" almost a foregone conclusion; the world instantly
> understood what it was--a faster version of what they already had.)

Thanks for your reply.
And between your words, it seems I'm hearing the sound of your
voice...

Best regards,
Michelot


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