Newbie Cable Modem Home Network Question

Newbie Cable Modem Home Network Question

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Newbie Cable Modem Home Network Question Ken 02-06-2005
Posted by Ken on February 6, 2005, 5:44 am
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Hi. I've been using a 56K dial-up Internet connection for a long time.
I've finally decided to move on up to broadband cable modem. Our house
has two computers that access the Internet, one belonging to me and one
to my wife. I have a Pentium 4 running XP Home, and she has a Mac G3
notebook running OS X. Both have Ethernet cards built-in and available
USB ports.

My goal is to subscribe to a cable modem service (comcast is all that's
offered around here--DSL is not available), and use a wireless router
home network to get the service to the two computers. I'm a total
newbie at this. I sort of understand that I'll need to connect a cable
modem to our cable line, connect a wireless router to the cable modem,
and give each computer some sort of wireless adapter. And I'll need to
buy firewire software. I'm also assuming that we can do this having
just one ISP address as long as my wife and I don't access at the same
time (not sure if that is true). That's the extent of my knowledge (or
lack thereof). Can someone provide advice or point me to a good FAQ on
the topic? I looked on CNET.com, but their Wirless Network 101 article
is dated 2003. At the rate technology changes, I figure I should look
up something more recent.

Thanks for any info!

Ken



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Posted by Ron Hunter on February 6, 2005, 9:02 am
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Ken wrote:
> Hi. I've been using a 56K dial-up Internet connection for a long time.
> I've finally decided to move on up to broadband cable modem. Our house
> has two computers that access the Internet, one belonging to me and one
> to my wife. I have a Pentium 4 running XP Home, and she has a Mac G3
> notebook running OS X. Both have Ethernet cards built-in and available
> USB ports.
>
> My goal is to subscribe to a cable modem service (comcast is all that's
> offered around here--DSL is not available), and use a wireless router
> home network to get the service to the two computers. I'm a total
> newbie at this. I sort of understand that I'll need to connect a cable
> modem to our cable line, connect a wireless router to the cable modem,
> and give each computer some sort of wireless adapter. And I'll need to
> buy firewire software. I'm also assuming that we can do this having
> just one ISP address as long as my wife and I don't access at the same
> time (not sure if that is true). That's the extent of my knowledge (or
> lack thereof). Can someone provide advice or point me to a good FAQ on
> the topic? I looked on CNET.com, but their Wirless Network 101 article
> is dated 2003. At the rate technology changes, I figure I should look
> up something more recent.
>
> Thanks for any info!
>
> Ken
>
I have three computers on my cable system, and all can access at the
same time. The laptop accesses through a wireless router/switch, and
the two desktops are ethernet wired. Why would you need firewire?

Setup is VERY simple, just follow the instructions on the router you buy.


--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net


Posted by Ken on February 6, 2005, 11:57 am
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Ron Hunter wrote:

> Ken wrote:
>
>> Hi. I've been using a 56K dial-up Internet connection for a long time.
>> I've finally decided to move on up to broadband cable modem. Our house
>> has two computers that access the Internet, one belonging to me and one
>> to my wife. I have a Pentium 4 running XP Home, and she has a Mac G3
>> notebook running OS X. Both have Ethernet cards built-in and available
>> USB ports.
>>
>> My goal is to subscribe to a cable modem service (comcast is all that's
>> offered around here--DSL is not available), and use a wireless router
>> home network to get the service to the two computers. I'm a total
>> newbie at this. I sort of understand that I'll need to connect a cable
>> modem to our cable line, connect a wireless router to the cable modem,
>> and give each computer some sort of wireless adapter. And I'll need to
>> buy firewire software. I'm also assuming that we can do this having
>> just one ISP address as long as my wife and I don't access at the same
>> time (not sure if that is true). That's the extent of my knowledge (or
>> lack thereof). Can someone provide advice or point me to a good FAQ on
>> the topic? I looked on CNET.com, but their Wirless Network 101 article
>> is dated 2003. At the rate technology changes, I figure I should look
>> up something more recent.
>>
>> Thanks for any info!
>>
>> Ken
>>
> I have three computers on my cable system, and all can access at the
> same time. The laptop accesses through a wireless router/switch, and
> the two desktops are ethernet wired. Why would you need firewire?

Oops. I meant to write "firewall." My PC is not near a cable outlet.
Would it be worth it to pay to have a cable outlet added?

Also, is there a difference between the wireless router I would connect
to the cable modem and the wireless router/switch I would connect to the
laptop? Are these different products, or the same product used
differently? Could you provide an example model of each (if they are
different), so I can look it up and better understand the difference?

Thanks again!

Ken


Posted by $Bill on February 6, 2005, 10:55 am
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Ken wrote:

> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>
>>Ken wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi. I've been using a 56K dial-up Internet connection for a long time.
>>>I've finally decided to move on up to broadband cable modem. Our house
>>>has two computers that access the Internet, one belonging to me and one
>>>to my wife. I have a Pentium 4 running XP Home, and she has a Mac G3
>>>notebook running OS X. Both have Ethernet cards built-in and available
>>>USB ports.
>>>
>>>My goal is to subscribe to a cable modem service (comcast is all that's
>>>offered around here--DSL is not available), and use a wireless router
>>>home network to get the service to the two computers. I'm a total
>>>newbie at this. I sort of understand that I'll need to connect a cable
>>>modem to our cable line, connect a wireless router to the cable modem,
>>>and give each computer some sort of wireless adapter. And I'll need to
>>>buy firewire software. I'm also assuming that we can do this having
>>>just one ISP address as long as my wife and I don't access at the same
>>>time (not sure if that is true). That's the extent of my knowledge (or
>>>lack thereof). Can someone provide advice or point me to a good FAQ on
>>>the topic? I looked on CNET.com, but their Wirless Network 101 article
>>>is dated 2003. At the rate technology changes, I figure I should look
>>>up something more recent.
>>>
>>>Thanks for any info!
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>
>>
>>I have three computers on my cable system, and all can access at the
>>same time. The laptop accesses through a wireless router/switch, and
>>the two desktops are ethernet wired. Why would you need firewire?
>
>
> Oops. I meant to write "firewall." My PC is not near a cable outlet.
> Would it be worth it to pay to have a cable outlet added?
>
> Also, is there a difference between the wireless router I would connect
> to the cable modem and the wireless router/switch I would connect to the
> laptop? Are these different products, or the same product used
> differently? Could you provide an example model of each (if they are
> different), so I can look it up and better understand the difference?

Always best to use compatible hardware from the same manufacturer if
possible, but as long as they're all G or B or whatever, you should
be ok.

Your cable company should probably do the hookup to the cable modem,
then you can add the router in after they leave. You could wire one
and go wirelss on the other as another option since most wireless
routers also have a 4-port switch. You'll want to split
the cable on entrance to the house and run the one tap to the cable
modem and the other to any TVs with possibly another splitter of using
a 1-4 or 1-8 on entrance instead of a 1-2. You don't want any TVs on
the cable leg if at all possible.

Splitter ------- Computer Wired
------------------ Cable Modem ------ Router < ~~~~~~~ Computer
Wireless
----------|
------------------ TV or splitter and more TVs
|
------------------ TV
^
|
House
Entrance

There's not much to the hookup as you can see above - basically just a
good quality splitter and a router with cable.



Posted by Andrew Rossmann on February 6, 2005, 9:36 am
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[This followup was posted to comp.dcom.modems.cable and a copy was sent
to the cited author.]

kenandeva@yahoo.com says...
> Hi. I've been using a 56K dial-up Internet connection for a long time.
> I've finally decided to move on up to broadband cable modem. Our house
> has two computers that access the Internet, one belonging to me and one
> to my wife. I have a Pentium 4 running XP Home, and she has a Mac G3
> notebook running OS X. Both have Ethernet cards built-in and available
> USB ports.
>
> My goal is to subscribe to a cable modem service (comcast is all that's
> offered around here--DSL is not available), and use a wireless router
> home network to get the service to the two computers. I'm a total
> newbie at this. I sort of understand that I'll need to connect a cable
> modem to our cable line, connect a wireless router to the cable modem,
> and give each computer some sort of wireless adapter. And I'll need to
> buy firewire software. I'm also assuming that we can do this having
> just one ISP address as long as my wife and I don't access at the same
> time (not sure if that is true). That's the extent of my knowledge (or
> lack thereof). Can someone provide advice or point me to a good FAQ on
> the topic? I looked on CNET.com, but their Wirless Network 101 article
> is dated 2003. At the rate technology changes, I figure I should look
> up something more recent.

Start with a wireless broadband router. You hook the modem up to that.
From that, you can hook up several wired computers (typically 4 for most
consumer level routers), and several wireless computers.

Unless you move a computer/laptop around alot, or running wires is
very difficult, I would avoid wireless where possible (this will save
money, too). It's a big security hole. If you do want to use it, make
certain both the router and the computer(s) have the latest
firmware/software, and the latest encryption standards. Also, make
certain to turn ON encryption and security on the router. I would
strongly suggest getting a router where you can limit access to certain
MAC addresses (each network card has a unique MAC address, which is
different than an IP address.) This way, only YOUR equipment can access
it. Also don't forget to rename the router's wireless name to something
unique, but not directly traceable to you (like your name.) As it is, if
you are in an urban area, you can probably already pick up several
wireless connections from your neighbors!! Often, they are wide open and
ANYBODY can connect.

You don't need Firewire for networking as both of your computer have
ethernet. Just plug in the cable and you are basically set. XP is pretty
smart and should connect up fine. I'm not as sure about the Mac. Most
routers come with good instructions. You can usually download .PDF's of
their manuals if you want to preview them before buying one.

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