Moto SB5100 signal drop

Moto SB5100 signal drop

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Moto SB5100 signal drop Chuck Reti 04-21-2006
Posted by $Bill on April 22, 2006, 9:59 pm
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Chuck Reti wrote:

> Oddly/interestingly enough, upstream reads 55 dBmV either way. The
> downstream numbers change favorably, 0 to +2 or +3; 37 db s/n with
> splitter out as opposed to -3 dBmV / 35 db s/n with splitter in.
> Am experiencing solid service, no drops with the cable direct into the
> modem. May try a directional coupler instead of a splitter, about 1 dB
> loss to the modem and 4 to 6 to the TV which would be fine.
> Don't have any idea how to convince Comcast that it's probably something
> on THEIR end. They'll just want to send out another guy with a wrench
> and a crimp tool.
> I'm still not suspicious of the modem itself, but may give Moto a call
> as well.

If you've got a next door neighbor with cable, maybe you could swap
modems and see if things change.

Pure Networks
Posted by Robert Nichols on April 23, 2006, 9:30 am
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:
:> There is a problem with the upstream signal level. At 55 dBmV your
:> modem is screaming just about as loud as it can in order to make itself
:> heard, and if the upstream loss increases just a little bit you will
:> lose the connection. What is the upstream power level with the splitter
:> removed?
:
:Oddly/interestingly enough, upstream reads 55 dBmV either way.

That confirms that the head end is telling your modem, "Yell as loud as
you can, I can barely hear you." The problem could be your modem not
putting out as strong a signal as it thinks it is, or it could be
trouble in the transmission path. The easiest thing to try is a
replacement modem. Why not just rent a modem from Comcast for a month
or two. If that fixes the problem you can buy a new modem and cancel
the rental. If the problem persists, you can now tell Comcast, "It's
your modem and your system, make it work."

BTW, when you phone in to tech support, they should be able to see
what your upstream signal level and SNR are at the head end.

--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42"

Posted by Jim T. on April 24, 2006, 9:15 am
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:30:59 +0000 (UTC), Robert Nichols

>:
>:> There is a problem with the upstream signal level. At 55 dBmV your
>:> modem is screaming just about as loud as it can in order to make itself
>:> heard, and if the upstream loss increases just a little bit you will
>:> lose the connection. What is the upstream power level with the splitter
>:> removed?
>:
>:Oddly/interestingly enough, upstream reads 55 dBmV either way.
>
>That confirms that the head end is telling your modem, "Yell as loud as
>you can, I can barely hear you." The problem could be your modem not
>putting out as strong a signal as it thinks it is, or it could be
>trouble in the transmission path. The easiest thing to try is a
>replacement modem. Why not just rent a modem from Comcast for a month
>or two. If that fixes the problem you can buy a new modem and cancel
>the rental. If the problem persists, you can now tell Comcast, "It's
>your modem and your system, make it work."
>
>BTW, when you phone in to tech support, they should be able to see
>what your upstream signal level and SNR are at the head end

Comcast ran a separate line to my modem - avoiding all splitters but
the one on the access box. That fixed the upstream # and it has worked
great ever since. Only problem is that they cut the line short so it
can't be tucked away very well.

Posted by Chuck Reti on April 24, 2006, 11:42 pm
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>
> Comcast ran a separate line to my modem - avoiding all splitters but
> the one on the access box. That fixed the upstream # and it has worked
> great ever since. Only problem is that they cut the line short so it
> can't be tucked away very well.

The line to my modem is also a separate drop from the pole, running
directly into the upstairs computer room. I'm taking one split off it to
feed a tv in that room.
I'm thinking the Motorola modem might be not as tolerant to my
marginally low signal levels as it should be. My neighbor has a
Thompson/RCA modem (Comcast self-install kit) and has -4.2 dBmV 33dB s/n
up and 54 dBmV down and claims he has no service drops.
--
Chuck Reti
Detroit MI

Posted by $Bill on April 25, 2006, 1:13 am
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Chuck Reti wrote:

>
>
>>Comcast ran a separate line to my modem - avoiding all splitters but
>>the one on the access box. That fixed the upstream # and it has worked
>>great ever since. Only problem is that they cut the line short so it
>>can't be tucked away very well.
>
>
> The line to my modem is also a separate drop from the pole, running
> directly into the upstairs computer room. I'm taking one split off it to
> feed a tv in that room.
> I'm thinking the Motorola modem might be not as tolerant to my
> marginally low signal levels as it should be. My neighbor has a
> Thompson/RCA modem (Comcast self-install kit) and has -4.2 dBmV 33dB s/n
> up and 54 dBmV down and claims he has no service drops.

But does he get the same numbers if you plug it in at your house is the Q.

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