Is there a market for an open source router?

Is there a market for an open source router?
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Is there a market for an open source router? Ramon F Herrera 06-30-2008
Posted by Tim Smith on June 30, 2008, 9:44 pm
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In article
> "While Cisco accidentally created an open source router a few years
> ago, getting caught with Linux in its Linksys, the company never
> exploited this as a feature, but treated it as a bug, blaming chip
> supplier Broadcom.
>
> Netgear is definitely treating this as a feature."
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2612&tag=nl.e550

That blogger is a bit confused. Linksys used both VxWorks and Linux in
the WRT54G. Revisions 1.0-4.0 used Linux, then they used VxWorks from
5.0-8.0, then Linux in 8.1, then VxWorks in 8.2. So he is correct that
they didn't exploit Linux in that model.

However, when they found that many people were specifically seeking out
the Linux models in order to install their own software on them, they
introduced the WRT54GL, which was basically a 4.x version of the WRT54G.
It was marketed as running Linux so you could hack it as a feature.

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Posted by Linonut on July 1, 2008, 7:16 am
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* Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:

> In article
>> "While Cisco accidentally created an open source router a few years
>> ago, getting caught with Linux in its Linksys, the company never
>> exploited this as a feature, but treated it as a bug, blaming chip
>> supplier Broadcom.
>>
>> Netgear is definitely treating this as a feature."
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2612&tag=nl.e550
>
> That blogger is a bit confused. Linksys used both VxWorks and Linux in
> the WRT54G. Revisions 1.0-4.0 used Linux, then they used VxWorks from
> 5.0-8.0, then Linux in 8.1, then VxWorks in 8.2. So he is correct that
> they didn't exploit Linux in that model.
>
> However, when they found that many people were specifically seeking out
> the Linux models in order to install their own software on them, they
> introduced the WRT54GL, which was basically a 4.x version of the WRT54G.
> It was marketed as running Linux so you could hack it as a feature.

Was that before or after Cisco acquired Linksys, though?

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Posted by Erik Funkenbusch on July 1, 2008, 10:13 pm
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:13 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera wrote:

> "While Cisco accidentally created an open source router a few years
> ago, getting caught with Linux in its Linksys, the company never
> exploited this as a feature, but treated it as a bug, blaming chip
> supplier Broadcom.
>
> Netgear is definitely treating this as a feature."
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2612&tag=nl.e550

There certainly is a market. Not for me, though. It seems like i'm the
only person in the world that wants various features from my routers. It
doesn't seem too much to ask.

What I want:

1) Multi-wan support with failover only (not load-balancing with failover)
2) Transparent DMZ support (bridging)
3) Many:1 NAT support
4) 1:1 NAT support
5) All of the above at the same time (meaning some addresses mapped 1:!,
some many:1, some bridged) and this *is* possible, i've done it on
commercial routers.
6) Source Based Routing
7) SIP/RTP Proxy functioality (that works with the failover)

I have yet to find a single open source Firewall/router that supports all
these features. I don't even care if it has a nice GUI (though that would
be nice).

Routers like ipcop and smoothwall express don't do bridging (though the
commercial smoothwall does, but firewall vendors nickel and dime you to
death. I don't mind buying, but i want it to be a one-time cost).

I have yet to find an open source router that does SIP/RTP proxying (though
with some you could hack it in if you wanted). I'm looking for something
that just does this out of the box (so to speak) without having to piece it
together.

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