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Posted by Stephen on June 25, 2008, 12:03 pm
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:03:54 -0400, "Scott Perry"
>Get your certification on your own this summer and then enroll in an
>associate degree program at some acredited local community college for
>information technology for this fall. Acredited community colleges and
>universities allow you to transfer classes and credits.
>Those small training schools do not and cost a lot more. As for the quality
>of their education, it has yet to be proven. I prefer the instructors hired
>and retained by a larger institution like a college than the instructors
>hired by a struggling training company.
>Depending on which accredited college which you decide to attend, they will
>very likely have classes that you can skip by showing proof of your
>certification. It is cheaper and does not make you double some of your work
>in the classroom. Spending your time and money at some learning institute
>that cannot transfer your credits to a university or other college is a real
>waste. When you tire of being a grunt in the IT field and want to get a
>bachelor's degree to make your last 10, 20, or 30 years of employment more
>benficial, you will hate yourself for going to an institue which does not
>transfer classes and credits to a 4 year college or university.
>
>I have seen someone with a PC and server background pick up a CCNA in 3
>months. In this case, they actually commited one evening of their time each
>week without exception, did not have to pay for anything other than their
>book, and passed on their 2nd try. The CCNA can be picked up in time for a
>fall college semester to start.
>
>As for this "information security" title, I would not value that more than a
>regular "information technology" title. Sure, you sound more security
>oriented, but you also sound more "pidgeon-holed" or unable to broaden into
>other positions. At least a broad information technology title can
>understand firewalls and security appliances while also knowing the rest of
>the field.
It might be worth something if it works towards something like CISSP
or another independent security accreditation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CISSP
ask them what comes out the other end, and then hunt up the acronyms.
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>If you want to get a job, it might be a lot better to get the CCNA and state
>that you are enrolled and attending a degree program.
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>Scott Perry
>Indianapolis, IN
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>>I had a tentative plan to start studying right away for the CCNET,
>> hopefully get a job..any job...then continue with CCNA.
>>
>> Then I was going to attack the Information Security program at Devry:
>> http://www.devry.edu/keller/programs/information_security/courses.jsp
>>
>> I spoke with that advisor at Devry again.
>> I told her my plan, and she thinks I should chuck the CCNET/CCNA and
>> get started in their info security program right away (of course she
>> does).
>>
>> My point was, I can hopefully get a job with the CCNET, and then work
>> on the security degree while I had a job.
>>
>> Her point is, just having the fact that I'm pursuing their degree is
>> great on a resume.
>>
>> My point was, just being enrolled in a program doesn't mean that you
>> actually know how to DO the stuff...right? If that were they case, I
>> could have got an engineering job before getting my engineering
>> degree.
>>
>> Anyway, do you have any clue how long I should expect it to take to
>> get the CCNET if I'm not currently working, and it's my priority?
>>
>> And does she have any valid point about being enrolled in a program
>> and thinking that will help get me a job? Unless of course the first
>> course on the list (an 8-week course) would be enough to get me in the
>> door somewhere.
>>
>> Looking for advice, here.
>
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