GSM data quality - what does 16khz pulse duration mean?

GSM data quality - what does 16khz pulse duration mean?

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GSM data quality - what does 16khz pulse duration mean? cindyanello 03-29-2007
Posted by on March 29, 2007, 5:51 pm
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I have a "Fixed Wireless Terminal model GW1000BL" which is a device
that takes a SIM chip and supplies dial tone back to any RJ11 device
plugged into it. I am trying to use this terminal as a means to
communicate alarm signals from my home alarm to the central station.
I can get low speed pulse signals (called 4+2 in alarm speak) to go
through - but when I try a higher rate protocol called Contact ID -
the transmission fails. I dont know if the issue is a frequency
limitation in the cell system design (Rogers Canada GSM) or perhaps a
setting on the Fixed Wireless Terminal that could be adjusted to
improve the throughput.

The owners manual for the terminal talks of parameter settings that
cen be changed - but they are all unfamiliar to me. The ones that
seem like they might be of interest include:

ISD Call (Enable/Disable)
Loop Interruption
PR Outgoing Call (Enable/Disable)
16 khz Outgoing Call (Enable/Disable)
16khz Pulse Duration
Dial Time Out
16khz default value
16khz table

Would anyone out there know if any of the above parameters might
improve the data transmission rate for the terminal?

Thanks, Cindy


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Posted by on April 5, 2007, 5:05 pm
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Looks like you and I have the same device (I presume this was an eBay
purchase). I have a similar problem. I have a Rogers Pay-as-you-go
SIM card installed in the unit, I can place and recieve calls. I am
using the device to control a remote power controller that picks up
after a few rings and utilizes touch-tone for control. I cannot
reliably send touch tones from a landline to the GSM gateway.

The touch tones aren't making it very clearly to the device I have
connected to the Fixed Wireless Terminal. I'm going to see what I can
dig up to improve quality, if I find something I'll write back - if
you find anything, please let me know.

The manual is absolutely terrible - I have no idea what some of the
acronyms are - and I'm good with acronyms. Also - it sounds like the
machine is British or something (the dial tone) - would be nice to
change it to north american.

Best of luck





On Mar 29, 5:51 pm, cindyane...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a "Fixed Wireless Terminal model GW1000BL" which is a device
> that takes a SIM chip and supplies dial tone back to any RJ11 device
> plugged into it. I am trying to use this terminal as a means to
> communicate alarm signals from my home alarm to the central station.
> I can get low speed pulse signals (called 4+2 in alarm speak) to go
> through - but when I try a higher rate protocol called Contact ID -
> the transmission fails. I dont know if the issue is a frequency
> limitation in the cell system design (Rogers Canada GSM) or perhaps a
> setting on the Fixed Wireless Terminal that could be adjusted to
> improve the throughput.
>
> The owners manual for the terminal talks of parameter settings that
> cen be changed - but they are all unfamiliar to me. The ones that
> seem like they might be of interest include:
>
> ISD Call (Enable/Disable)
> Loop Interruption
> PR Outgoing Call (Enable/Disable)
> 16 khz Outgoing Call (Enable/Disable)
> 16khz Pulse Duration
> Dial Time Out
> 16khz default value
> 16khz table
>
> Would anyone out there know if any of the above parameters might
> improve the data transmission rate for the terminal?
>
> Thanks, Cindy



Posted by Jack Adams on April 5, 2007, 6:35 pm
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Here's an observation. Wireless both TDMA and CDMA Radio encoding
schemes don't handle sinusoids (what Touch Tones really are) very well.
They all perform some sort (ACELP encoding is typical) of voice
compression on the audio signal. It's pretty good for voice, enabling
reasonable voice phoneme construction, but fails miserably for things
like transmitting Touch Tones (or DTMF).
To make a long story short, there's nothing much you can do.


cindyanello@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a "Fixed Wireless Terminal model GW1000BL" which is a device
> that takes a SIM chip and supplies dial tone back to any RJ11 device
> plugged into it. I am trying to use this terminal as a means to
> communicate alarm signals from my home alarm to the central station.
> I can get low speed pulse signals (called 4+2 in alarm speak) to go
> through - but when I try a higher rate protocol called Contact ID -
> the transmission fails. I dont know if the issue is a frequency
> limitation in the cell system design (Rogers Canada GSM) or perhaps a
> setting on the Fixed Wireless Terminal that could be adjusted to
> improve the throughput.
>
> The owners manual for the terminal talks of parameter settings that
> cen be changed - but they are all unfamiliar to me. The ones that
> seem like they might be of interest include:
>
> ISD Call (Enable/Disable)
> Loop Interruption
> PR Outgoing Call (Enable/Disable)
> 16 khz Outgoing Call (Enable/Disable)
> 16khz Pulse Duration
> Dial Time Out
> 16khz default value
> 16khz table
>
> Would anyone out there know if any of the above parameters might
> improve the data transmission rate for the terminal?
>
> Thanks, Cindy
>

Posted by Terry on April 5, 2007, 8:05 pm
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> Here's an observation. Wireless both TDMA and CDMA Radio encoding schemes
> don't handle sinusoids (what Touch Tones really are) very well.
> They all perform some sort (ACELP encoding is typical) of voice
> compression on the audio signal. It's pretty good for voice, enabling
> reasonable voice phoneme construction, but fails miserably for things
> like transmitting Touch Tones (or DTMF).
> To make a long story short, there's nothing much you can do.
>
So when I call by voice mail, put in password, dial 1 for this, 2 for that
and 3 for the other thing, I am not touch toning something ? It is all
digital ?

TerryS



Posted by Jack Adams on April 6, 2007, 3:54 pm
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The answer to that is yes and no. Yes, the terminating end
(Your favorite IVR) is receiving "real" DTMF tones. Even though
your local "sidetone" sounds like real touch tones, that is not
what is being transmitted over the Radio Access Network. What is
being sent from your mobile handset is a digital signal that will
be interpreted by the MSC into real touch tones. Handset digits
dialed do not travel as analog (sinusoids) from the mobile handset.

Terry wrote:
>> Here's an observation. Wireless both TDMA and CDMA Radio encoding schemes
>> don't handle sinusoids (what Touch Tones really are) very well.
>> They all perform some sort (ACELP encoding is typical) of voice
>> compression on the audio signal. It's pretty good for voice, enabling
>> reasonable voice phoneme construction, but fails miserably for things
>> like transmitting Touch Tones (or DTMF).
>> To make a long story short, there's nothing much you can do.
>>
> So when I call by voice mail, put in password, dial 1 for this, 2 for that
> and 3 for the other thing, I am not touch toning something ? It is all
> digital ?
>
> TerryS
>
>

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