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Fake Cisco equipment bust wakajawaka 03-09-2008
Posted by wakajawaka on March 9, 2008, 10:22 pm
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http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/25519

I am just starting to think about getting my CCNA - I have not really began
to study yet. I am trying to become familiar with the needs before I decide
how to do it. However, I came across the article in the link posted above.
I have 2 questions: How does one make fake Cisco equipment??? Is there a
big factory in China duplicating their products?
And why does this company is still being allowed to operate on eBay ?
(I guess that was 3 questions:)

NMFall 20%
Posted by CK on March 12, 2008, 6:26 am
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Anything is possible as an old man said once... "in impossible there
is a possible"

Posted by S.G. on March 13, 2008, 1:34 am
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wrote:

>http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/25519
>
>I am just starting to think about getting my CCNA - I have not really began
>to study yet. I am trying to become familiar with the needs before I decide
>how to do it. However, I came across the article in the link posted above.
>I have 2 questions: How does one make fake Cisco equipment??? Is there a
>big factory in China duplicating their products?

How? The infamous "third shift". If you are a manufacturer in China
with the Cisco contract, you can produce Cisco equipment for part of
the day and fake Cisco through the night. You already have lots of
hardware and packaging from Cisco. All you need to do is insert
cheaper memory, etc. -- oh, and bribe the local officials.

This is why we have tainted drugs, toothpaste, etc. Our companies are
saving money for their CEOs & stockholders, not employing workers from
their own country and all the while acting surprised that such a thing
could happen.

>And why does this company is still being allowed to operate on eBay ?
>(I guess that was 3 questions:)

eBay will kick them off if there are enough complaints. Or when they
start to negatively impact eBay's bottom line.

Posted by wakajawaka on March 13, 2008, 8:42 pm
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> wrote:
>
>>http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/25519
>>
>>I am just starting to think about getting my CCNA - I have not really
>>began to study yet. I am trying to become familiar with the needs
>>before I decide how to do it. However, I came across the article in
>>the link posted above. I have 2 questions: How does one make fake
>>Cisco equipment??? Is there a big factory in China duplicating their
>>products?
>
> How? The infamous "third shift". If you are a manufacturer in China
> with the Cisco contract, you can produce Cisco equipment for part of
> the day and fake Cisco through the night. You already have lots of
> hardware and packaging from Cisco. All you need to do is insert
> cheaper memory, etc. -- oh, and bribe the local officials.
>
> This is why we have tainted drugs, toothpaste, etc. Our companies are
> saving money for their CEOs & stockholders, not employing workers from
> their own country and all the while acting surprised that such a thing
> could happen.
>


Very interesting - I had never heard of the "third shift"
Quite true what you say about CEOs. I work for a telecommunications
company and every day we outsource more and more, to the point where if I
didn't work there I wouldn't be a customer.

Posted by S.G. on March 14, 2008, 10:31 am
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wrote:

>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/25519
>>>
>>>I am just starting to think about getting my CCNA - I have not really
>>>began to study yet. I am trying to become familiar with the needs
>>>before I decide how to do it. However, I came across the article in
>>>the link posted above. I have 2 questions: How does one make fake
>>>Cisco equipment??? Is there a big factory in China duplicating their
>>>products?
>>
>> How? The infamous "third shift". If you are a manufacturer in China
>> with the Cisco contract, you can produce Cisco equipment for part of
>> the day and fake Cisco through the night. You already have lots of
>> hardware and packaging from Cisco. All you need to do is insert
>> cheaper memory, etc. -- oh, and bribe the local officials.
>>
>> This is why we have tainted drugs, toothpaste, etc. Our companies are
>> saving money for their CEOs & stockholders, not employing workers from
>> their own country and all the while acting surprised that such a thing
>> could happen.
>>
>
>
>Very interesting - I had never heard of the "third shift"
>Quite true what you say about CEOs. I work for a telecommunications
>company and every day we outsource more and more, to the point where if I
>didn't work there I wouldn't be a customer.

For more details, look at
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/05/01/8375455/index.htm

and:

http://www.lockergnome.com/it/2007/02/16/working-the-third-shift-tips-to-avoid-counterfeits-when-buying-and-selling-used-cisco/

for more specific Cisco dealings.

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