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FAQ: Maximizing cable modem or DSL speed

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FAQ: Maximizing cable modem or DSL speed John Navas 10-16-2006
Posted by Timothy Daniels on October 20, 2006, 7:37 pm
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"Warren" wrote:
> So because some people disagree with him, nothing he says is of any
> value?


Did I say that?


> I'm sure I can dig-up a few things you've said that others have believed
> they sufficiently proven you wrong about that you continued to maintain
> your own opinion.
>
> Do I agree with everything John says? No. I don't remember anything
> specific, but I'm pretty sure you'll find something he and I disagreed on
> sometime in the last decade, and I'm sure you could also dig up people who
> agreed with him, as well as people who agreed with me.
>
> But that doesn't invalidate the value of the link he provided. Spending an
> hour reading his guide is a better use of time than spending an hour
> reading these Usenet groups. Again, don't agree with him 100%. There's no
> one I agree with 100%. I don't even agree with myself 100% of the time.
> But I feel comfortable enough saying that his page is an excellent
> resource, and offers far better advice, and in a more concise way than
> many other sites.
>
> Want to disagree with something specific John says? Go ahead. I'm sure if
> you nit-pick enough you can find a few things. I know I can. Then take the
> time to put together as comprehensive and concise resource as he has, and
> then give it away for free. Then come back and tell us about what a great
> tax deduction it is.
>
> BTW... John used to spend a lot of time on Usenet helping thousands of
> strangers with their problems for free. But you can add him to a growing
> list of people who just don't bother anymore. I can't speak for why John
> isn't around as much anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was
> because the occasional "thank you" stopped being gratifying enough to make
> up for all the snipers who apparently stroke their own egos not by
> participating constructively, but by flaming those who do.



So after 5 paragraphs, what's your point?

*TimDaniels*

Pure Networks
Posted by zaj on October 20, 2006, 9:36 pm
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
> "Warren" wrote:
>> So because some people disagree with him, nothing he says is of any
>> value?
>
>
> Did I say that?

Yep, in more words than that...

>
>
>> I'm sure I can dig-up a few things you've said that others have
>> believed they sufficiently proven you wrong about that you continued
>> to maintain your own opinion.
>>
>> Do I agree with everything John says? No. I don't remember anything
>> specific, but I'm pretty sure you'll find something he and I disagreed
>> on sometime in the last decade, and I'm sure you could also dig up
>> people who agreed with him, as well as people who agreed with me.
>>
>> But that doesn't invalidate the value of the link he provided.
>> Spending an hour reading his guide is a better use of time than
>> spending an hour reading these Usenet groups. Again, don't agree with
>> him 100%. There's no one I agree with 100%. I don't even agree with
>> myself 100% of the time. But I feel comfortable enough saying that his
>> page is an excellent resource, and offers far better advice, and in a
>> more concise way than many other sites.
>>
>> Want to disagree with something specific John says? Go ahead. I'm sure
>> if you nit-pick enough you can find a few things. I know I can. Then
>> take the time to put together as comprehensive and concise resource as
>> he has, and then give it away for free. Then come back and tell us
>> about what a great tax deduction it is.
>>
>> BTW... John used to spend a lot of time on Usenet helping thousands
>> of strangers with their problems for free. But you can add him to a
>> growing list of people who just don't bother anymore. I can't speak
>> for why John isn't around as much anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised
>> if it was because the occasional "thank you" stopped being gratifying
>> enough to make up for all the snipers who apparently stroke their own
>> egos not by participating constructively, but by flaming those who do.
>
>
>
> So after 5 paragraphs, what's your point?

There ya go...you've proven it's a waste of time to counter your
omnipotent opinion.

>
> *TimDaniels*

Posted by Timothy Daniels on October 20, 2006, 11:39 pm
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"zaj" wrote:
> Timothy Daniels wrote:
>> "Warren" wrote:
>>> So because some people disagree with him, nothing he says is of any
>>> value?
>>
>>
>> Did I say that?
>
> Yep, in more words than that...


I made no reference to people disagreeing with Navas.
I did not say nothing that he says is of any value.
I did imply that you can't tell what is true and what isn't in
what he says because he never admits to an error but
rather, he will defend anything he says to the bitter end.

*TimDaniels*

Posted by Kim on October 21, 2006, 5:49 pm
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
------------- snip------------
> I did imply that you can't tell what is true and what isn't in
> what he says
--------------snip-------------

That is because he has nothing of value to contribute other than what -
I am assuming - he borrowed from someplace else...

Posted by Franc Zabkar on October 20, 2006, 9:40 pm
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finger to keyboard and composed:

>Do I agree with everything John says? No. I don't remember anything
>specific, but I'm pretty sure you'll find something he and I disagreed on
>sometime in the last decade, and I'm sure you could also dig up people who
>agreed with him, as well as people who agreed with me.
>
>But that doesn't invalidate the value of the link he provided. Spending an
>hour reading his guide is a better use of time than spending an hour
>reading these Usenet groups.

The problem with John Navas is that he is arrogant, abrasive, and
dismissive of other people's opinions. That's not to say that his FAQ
is not an excellent resource. But as for his motivation, I think a
large part of it is self aggrandisement. For example, JN regularly
posts an ad for his "Navas 28800-56K Modem FAQ TM"
(http://modemfaq.home.att.net/) which has not been updated since Win98
and V.90 days. He promotes his "Navas' Best of the BestTM" trademark
(http://modemfaq.home.att.net/faq_f.htm#BestOfBest) which is at best
pointless because it recommends modems that have not been produced for
over a decade and which refers to magazine reviews the last of which
is dated 1996. Yet JN's instructions for obtaining his coveted seal of
approval have been updated as recently as July 19, 2003. <shrug>

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

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