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Posted by Green Xenon [Radium] on June 22, 2008, 3:38 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options Jerry Avins wrote:
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> Please don't get upset at me.
>>>
>>> I am currently thinking about an extremely hypothetical form of QPM
>>> [Quantized Phase Modulation] in telecommunications technology. This
>>> too theoretical-too-be-realistic QPM uses 1-phase-per-symbol and
>>> 1-symbol-per-phone-line-per-second. In QPM, 1-bit allows for 2
>>> phases. So 1-phase assumes 1 bit for every 2 symbols. But since only
>>> 1-symbol-per-phone-line-per-second is used, the measurement is
>>> phase-per-symbol, not bit-per-symbol. Anyways, this device attempts
>>> to achieve a data rate of Graham's-number amount of bytes per second
>>> by using 2 X 16 X Graham's number amount of telephone lines. 2,
>>> because 1 phase makes up only 1 of the 2 states that a bit can
>>> represent. 16, because a byte is made of 8-bits, and no more than one
>>> phase [1 out of the 2 states a single bit can allow] is allowed
>>> per-symbol and no more than 1-symbol-per-phone-line-per-second is
>>> permitted.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_number
>>>
>>> Now that is a lot of telephone lines! (2 X 16 X Graham's number) lines
>>>
>>> If it were possible and feasible for such QPM to exist, what would be
>>> the disadvantages of it?
>>>
>>> If I had and audio system that could play this data through a
>>> speaker, what would I hear? Would it sound anything like those V.92
>>> dial-up modems when they just connect to the internet?
>>>
>>> Also, would my QPM qualify as PSK [Phase-Shift-Keying] or
>>> M[Multiple]-PSK? Or is it more like Pulse-Phase-Modulation?
>>>
>>>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22quantized+phase+modulation%22&btnG=Search
>>>
>>>
>>>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22pulse+phase+modulation%22&btnG=Google+Search
>>>
>>>
>>> I am aware that this scenario is so unrealistic -- because of the
>>> Graham's number -- that it can only exist in simulated reality.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality
>>>
>>> Anyways, I call it "extremely parallel" because there is
>>> 1-phase-per-line, no more, no less.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Radium
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>>
>> Oh, and I must add...
>>
>> In my hypothetical scenario...
>>
>> Each phone line uses a different phone number.
>>
>> Each phone line uses a different ISP.
>>
>> Each phone line uses a different IP address.
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>> Each phone line uses a different MAC address.
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>
> That lot of words confused one of us. As far as I can see, your system
> carries no information at all. Just show us the math; then we can judge.
>
> Jerry
The following occurs in my hypothetical system:
Quote from Jason [cincydsp@gmail.com]:
"If you allow the various phase-modulation signals to have multiple
phases and therefore carry information, then all you have is an enormous
set of parallel phase-modulated channels. As long as you had the
infrastructure in the PSTN network to support the connections, then you
would get linear scaling of total "bits/sec" capacity with the number of
phone lines."
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