Decent 48p switch for ~$600

Decent 48p switch for ~$600

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Decent 48p switch for ~$600 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Simen_S=2E_= 06-08-2008
Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Simen_S=2E_= on June 8, 2008, 6:38 pm
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Hello! I'm looking for a replacement for our "3com Baseline Switch 2250 plus"
48p switch. This is
the second 3com 2250+ we have had (the last one was returned) and it is very
unstable and crappy.

We don't need any fansy, we are about 150 users and the 48p switch (current 3com
2250+) is the main
connection point.

As I said we have a budget (not very rich company), ~$600 is maximum, and lower
would be better.

We also need 1000MBit ports for connecting to our file server. I've been looking
on the "HP ProCurve
Switch 2510-48", but that is a little to expensive.

Any help would be great!

--
Simen S. Øya
Fixed width is evil!

Posted by Martijn Lievaart on June 9, 2008, 1:48 am
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:38:44 +0200, Simen S. Øya wrote:

> Hello! I'm looking for a replacement for our "3com Baseline Switch 2250
> plus" 48p switch. This is the second 3com 2250+ we have had (the last
> one was returned) and it is very unstable and crappy.
>
> We don't need any fansy, we are about 150 users and the 48p switch
> (current 3com 2250+) is the main connection point.
>
> As I said we have a budget (not very rich company), ~$600 is maximum,
> and lower would be better.
>
> We also need 1000MBit ports for connecting to our file server. I've been
> looking on the "HP ProCurve Switch 2510-48", but that is a little to
> expensive.
>
> Any help would be great!

Refurbished?

http://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-2960-series-port-switch-wsc296024ttl-
p-1287.html

It's so cheap, I haven't figured out the catch myself. Maybe there is
none.

http://www.thenerds.net/
CISCO_SYSTEMS.Cisco_Catalyst_2960_24TT_Managed_Ethernet_Switch.WSC296024TTLRF.html?
affid=1&srccode=cii_9324560&cpncode=18-10667925-2&affid=3

http://www.pcrush.com/prodspec.asp?refid=1058&itemno=131725&cpid=

http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?refid=7&sku=CISWSC296024TTLRF

Or buy an older model (no Gb port)

http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?Redir=1&description=Cisco%
2DCatalyst+2950+24+port+Switch+%2D+Authorized+Refurbished+Product%
2DSwitches+%2F
+Hubs&store=macmall&dpno=299771&source=MWBAMAZON&&adcampaign=email,MWBAMAZON&wt.mc_id=MWBAMAZON

M4

Posted by Torbjorn Lindgren on June 9, 2008, 8:20 am
>Hello! I'm looking for a replacement for our "3com Baseline Switch
>2250 plus" 48p switch. This is the second 3com 2250+ we have had (the
>last one was returned) and it is very unstable and crappy.

Well... It IS a 3Com, I'm far from the only one who've had bad
experiences with them.


>We don't need any fansy, we are about 150 users and the 48p switch
>(current 3com 2250+) is the main connection point.
>
>As I said we have a budget (not very rich company), ~$600 is maximum,
>and lower would be better.

You mostly get what you pay for, though it's rare for Cisco to be
worth what they ask for them (but there's definitely cases where it
is) :-)


>We also need 1000MBit ports for connecting to our file server. I've
>been looking on the "HP ProCurve Switch 2510-48", but that is a
>little to expensive.

Both PriceWatch and Shopper indicates J9020A should be be in the
budget you indicated, listing prices down towards $500-$530 including
shipping.

I have a number of the fan-less 2510-24, nice switch for what it is
(not a Gbps switch). Note that the 48-port version does have a fan so
IF noise is very important it might be possible kludge it via two
24-port switches and using one of the gigabit ports to link them at a
slightly higher price but it might still be within budget. However it
complicates things which (slightly) increases the chance of trouble.

Personally I'd say "find the space in the budget" because it's easy to
loose more than you've just saved unless it works 100%! In addition
you might consider that for a very small additional amount you would
get 1 Gbps out to all machines, but...

Your 48-port requirement rules out most "web-managed" or unmanaged
switches (they tend to top out at 24 ports).

In the same price and specification range we also find SMC SMC6152L2
or SMC6752AL2 though I'd suggest checking the specs so I didn't miss
anything, people have said nice things about the SMC Tiger switches
but since they cost about the same as HP without the nice HP lifetime
warranty I've not used them myself.

D-Link has a business line which IS cheaper than HP/SMC but has had a
reputation similar or worse than 3Com, reported in this and many other
groups though some people have had great luck with them (same with
3Com).

A quick check suggests that they have switches with the specification
you requested at roughly half the price of HP/SMC, but I'm not going
to mention models given that I've never used their business line,
heard bad things about them and seen their "home line" fall apart
spectacularly.

Dell also has switches in the price range at the moment, including a
48-port gigabit switch, PowerConnect 2748, currently at $489, normal
price $699. It's "web managed" (ie web interface but not SNMP support)
but is actually cheaper than their SNMP managed 48-port 10/100 switch.

I can't find that many reports about people using it but I've heard
less grumbling about Dell switches than D-Link Business line, but that
could just be less people using them (or not, D-Link Business isn't
exactly that common either).

Posted by JD on June 14, 2008, 12:37 am
Torbjorn Lindgren wrote:
>
>>Hello! I'm looking for a replacement for our "3com Baseline Switch
>>2250 plus" 48p switch. This is the second 3com 2250+ we have had (the
>>last one was returned) and it is very unstable and crappy.
>
>
> Well... It IS a 3Com, I'm far from the only one who've had bad
> experiences with them.
>
>
>
>>We don't need any fansy, we are about 150 users and the 48p switch
>>(current 3com 2250+) is the main connection point.
>>
>>As I said we have a budget (not very rich company), ~$600 is maximum,
>>and lower would be better.
>
>
> You mostly get what you pay for, though it's rare for Cisco to be
> worth what they ask for them (but there's definitely cases where it
> is) :-)
>
>
>
>>We also need 1000MBit ports for connecting to our file server. I've
>>been looking on the "HP ProCurve Switch 2510-48", but that is a
>>little to expensive.
>
>
> Both PriceWatch and Shopper indicates J9020A should be be in the
> budget you indicated, listing prices down towards $500-$530 including
> shipping.
>
> I have a number of the fan-less 2510-24, nice switch for what it is
> (not a Gbps switch). Note that the 48-port version does have a fan so
> IF noise is very important it might be possible kludge it via two
> 24-port switches and using one of the gigabit ports to link them at a
> slightly higher price but it might still be within budget. However it
> complicates things which (slightly) increases the chance of trouble.
>
> Personally I'd say "find the space in the budget" because it's easy to
> loose more than you've just saved unless it works 100%! In addition
> you might consider that for a very small additional amount you would
> get 1 Gbps out to all machines, but...
>
> Your 48-port requirement rules out most "web-managed" or unmanaged
> switches (they tend to top out at 24 ports).
>
> In the same price and specification range we also find SMC SMC6152L2
> or SMC6752AL2 though I'd suggest checking the specs so I didn't miss
> anything, people have said nice things about the SMC Tiger switches
> but since they cost about the same as HP without the nice HP lifetime
> warranty I've not used them myself.
>
> D-Link has a business line which IS cheaper than HP/SMC but has had a
> reputation similar or worse than 3Com, reported in this and many other
> groups though some people have had great luck with them (same with
> 3Com).
>
> A quick check suggests that they have switches with the specification
> you requested at roughly half the price of HP/SMC, but I'm not going
> to mention models given that I've never used their business line,
> heard bad things about them and seen their "home line" fall apart
> spectacularly.
>
> Dell also has switches in the price range at the moment, including a
> 48-port gigabit switch, PowerConnect 2748, currently at $489, normal
> price $699. It's "web managed" (ie web interface but not SNMP support)
> but is actually cheaper than their SNMP managed 48-port 10/100 switch.
>
> I can't find that many reports about people using it but I've heard
> less grumbling about Dell switches than D-Link Business line, but that
> could just be less people using them (or not, D-Link Business isn't
> exactly that common either).


I've had good luck with Allied Telesyn stuff for our lower end stuff.
They have a new 48 port switch Allied Telesis’ AT-FS750/48. Has 48
10/100, 2 SFP, 2 10/100/1000 ports.
Casual cruise through the web it appears to be selling in the $300 range.

JD

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