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ALL incoming ports now BLOCKED on Comcast Charles Newman 09-07-2006
Posted by f/fgeorge on September 17, 2006, 5:31 pm
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:27:40 -0700, "Charles Newman"

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>
>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:32:35 -0700, "Charles Newman"
>>
>> >X-No-Archive: Yes
>> >
>> >> X-No-Archive: Yes
>> >>
>> >> Comcast is now blocking ALL incoming traffic into
>> >> your PC, so anything even thinking of running a server
>> >> of any kind had better forget it. If you were running
>> >> any kind of online radio station, as I was, a good
>> >> alternative that works, and starting at a reasonable
>> >> price is Live 365, at http://www.live365.com.
>> >> If you are a Comcast subscriber attempting to run
>> >> your own streaming audio and want an alternative,
>> >> Live365 is the way to go. Packages that include
>> >> the ability to do live streaming from your computer
>> >> start at $20 monthly. I have been trying to start
>> >> my own online talk show and discovered that
>> >> Comcast is now blocking all incoming traffic
>> >> to customer computers. I did that by
>> >> connecting back to my setup by using an
>> >> open proxy server, and disovered that
>> >> all incoming traffic is now blocked.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Now those MOTHER FUCKERS are blocking outgoing
>> >access to myLive365 broadcast account. If I try to connect directly,
>> >Studio365 Live will tell me it cannot connect, but if I
>> >connect through an open Socks 5 proxy server, I get
>> >through with no problem.
>> > Unfortunately Comcast is the ONLY option I have for
>> >Internet where I live. I cannot use dial-up, because the
>> >computers I have did not even COME with modems and
>> >most computers today do not come with modems anymore,
>> >and the computer stores around here do not CARRY modems in
>> >stock anymore. I cannot get DSL, becuase of the loop distance,
>> >unless I want to pay in excess of $100 plus a month for
>> >business-level service, so I am just stuck with having to use
>> >someone's misconfigured Socks 5 proxy server when I want
>> >to broadcast. Geez, this really ROYALLY PISSES ME
>> >**OFF**!!! As it is, I have to cut the bitrate down to 32K,
>> >from 64K, to guarantee that I can broadcast with most Socks
>> >proxy servers out there.
>>
>> Get a Business account if you want to broadcast. You're not supposed
>> to be doing that on a Residential account anyway. I'm sure your
>> neighbors appreciate Comcast's efforts to block you so that they have
>
>It appears that it just might have been a DNS problem, beucase
>I can suddenly connect again. Why does Comcast have so
>many problems with their DNS servers?
>
They do not, they change them periodically to prevent people from
doing things they should not be doing. They figure if it is too hard
people will move up to the Business level and get a static ip address
and everything else that makes life sooo much easier.


Posted by Charles Newman on September 17, 2006, 6:12 pm
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> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:27:40 -0700, "Charles Newman"
>
> >X-No-Archive: Yes
> >
> >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:32:35 -0700, "Charles Newman"
> >>
> >> >X-No-Archive: Yes
> >> >
> >> >> X-No-Archive: Yes
> >> >>
> >> >> Comcast is now blocking ALL incoming traffic into
> >> >> your PC, so anything even thinking of running a server
> >> >> of any kind had better forget it. If you were running
> >> >> any kind of online radio station, as I was, a good
> >> >> alternative that works, and starting at a reasonable
> >> >> price is Live 365, at http://www.live365.com.
> >> >> If you are a Comcast subscriber attempting to run
> >> >> your own streaming audio and want an alternative,
> >> >> Live365 is the way to go. Packages that include
> >> >> the ability to do live streaming from your computer
> >> >> start at $20 monthly. I have been trying to start
> >> >> my own online talk show and discovered that
> >> >> Comcast is now blocking all incoming traffic
> >> >> to customer computers. I did that by
> >> >> connecting back to my setup by using an
> >> >> open proxy server, and disovered that
> >> >> all incoming traffic is now blocked.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Now those MOTHER FUCKERS are blocking outgoing
> >> >access to myLive365 broadcast account. If I try to connect directly,
> >> >Studio365 Live will tell me it cannot connect, but if I
> >> >connect through an open Socks 5 proxy server, I get
> >> >through with no problem.
> >> > Unfortunately Comcast is the ONLY option I have for
> >> >Internet where I live. I cannot use dial-up, because the
> >> >computers I have did not even COME with modems and
> >> >most computers today do not come with modems anymore,
> >> >and the computer stores around here do not CARRY modems in
> >> >stock anymore. I cannot get DSL, becuase of the loop distance,
> >> >unless I want to pay in excess of $100 plus a month for
> >> >business-level service, so I am just stuck with having to use
> >> >someone's misconfigured Socks 5 proxy server when I want
> >> >to broadcast. Geez, this really ROYALLY PISSES ME
> >> >**OFF**!!! As it is, I have to cut the bitrate down to 32K,
> >> >from 64K, to guarantee that I can broadcast with most Socks
> >> >proxy servers out there.
> >>
> >> Get a Business account if you want to broadcast. You're not supposed
> >> to be doing that on a Residential account anyway. I'm sure your
> >> neighbors appreciate Comcast's efforts to block you so that they have
> >
> >It appears that it just might have been a DNS problem, beucase
> >I can suddenly connect again. Why does Comcast have so
> >many problems with their DNS servers?
> >
> They do not, they change them periodically to prevent people from
> doing things they should not be doing. They figure if it is too hard
> people will move up to the Business level and get a static ip address
> and everything else that makes life sooo much easier.
>

Well, what I am doing is paying Live 365 $24.95 per month
to connect over a VoIP link to their servers, and then people
connect to the Live 365 servers to listen. The connection on
my end takes no more bandwidth that was any other VoIP
connection, such as Skype, would take. I use their Live
Studio software, which creates a VoIP link to Live 365,
and then the listeners connect to there, so I am taking a lot
less bandwidth than you might think. I take up no more
bandwidth than I would for Skype, Vonage, or any
VoIP service. I connect to Live365 at 32K, and then
the listeners connect to Live365. The Live365 servers
are merely a "middle man", as it were, acting as a relay
between my computer and my listeners, and I am paying
$26.95 per month for the privelege of being able to
broadcast. I connect to Live365, and Live365 takes
all the listener connections.



Posted by Gene S. Berkowitz on September 17, 2006, 7:11 pm
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charlesnewman1@comcast.do.not.spam.me.net says...
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:27:40 -0700, "Charles Newman"
> >
> > >X-No-Archive: Yes
> > >
> > >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:32:35 -0700, "Charles Newman"
> > >>
> > >> >X-No-Archive: Yes
> > >> >
> > >> >> X-No-Archive: Yes
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Comcast is now blocking ALL incoming traffic into
> > >> >> your PC, so anything even thinking of running a server
> > >> >> of any kind had better forget it. If you were running
> > >> >> any kind of online radio station, as I was, a good
> > >> >> alternative that works, and starting at a reasonable
> > >> >> price is Live 365, at http://www.live365.com.
> > >> >> If you are a Comcast subscriber attempting to run
> > >> >> your own streaming audio and want an alternative,
> > >> >> Live365 is the way to go. Packages that include
> > >> >> the ability to do live streaming from your computer
> > >> >> start at $20 monthly. I have been trying to start
> > >> >> my own online talk show and discovered that
> > >> >> Comcast is now blocking all incoming traffic
> > >> >> to customer computers. I did that by
> > >> >> connecting back to my setup by using an
> > >> >> open proxy server, and disovered that
> > >> >> all incoming traffic is now blocked.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Now those MOTHER FUCKERS are blocking outgoing
> > >> >access to myLive365 broadcast account. If I try to connect directly,
> > >> >Studio365 Live will tell me it cannot connect, but if I
> > >> >connect through an open Socks 5 proxy server, I get
> > >> >through with no problem.
> > >> > Unfortunately Comcast is the ONLY option I have for
> > >> >Internet where I live. I cannot use dial-up, because the
> > >> >computers I have did not even COME with modems and
> > >> >most computers today do not come with modems anymore,
> > >> >and the computer stores around here do not CARRY modems in
> > >> >stock anymore. I cannot get DSL, becuase of the loop distance,
> > >> >unless I want to pay in excess of $100 plus a month for
> > >> >business-level service, so I am just stuck with having to use
> > >> >someone's misconfigured Socks 5 proxy server when I want
> > >> >to broadcast. Geez, this really ROYALLY PISSES ME
> > >> >**OFF**!!! As it is, I have to cut the bitrate down to 32K,
> > >> >from 64K, to guarantee that I can broadcast with most Socks
> > >> >proxy servers out there.
> > >>
> > >> Get a Business account if you want to broadcast. You're not supposed
> > >> to be doing that on a Residential account anyway. I'm sure your
> > >> neighbors appreciate Comcast's efforts to block you so that they have
> > >
> > >It appears that it just might have been a DNS problem, beucase
> > >I can suddenly connect again. Why does Comcast have so
> > >many problems with their DNS servers?
> > >
> > They do not, they change them periodically to prevent people from
> > doing things they should not be doing. They figure if it is too hard
> > people will move up to the Business level and get a static ip address
> > and everything else that makes life sooo much easier.
> >
>
> Well, what I am doing is paying Live 365 $24.95 per month
> to connect over a VoIP link to their servers, and then people
> connect to the Live 365 servers to listen. The connection on
> my end takes no more bandwidth that was any other VoIP
> connection, such as Skype, would take. I use their Live
> Studio software, which creates a VoIP link to Live 365,
> and then the listeners connect to there, so I am taking a lot
> less bandwidth than you might think. I take up no more
> bandwidth than I would for Skype, Vonage, or any
> VoIP service. I connect to Live365 at 32K, and then
> the listeners connect to Live365. The Live365 servers
> are merely a "middle man", as it were, acting as a relay
> between my computer and my listeners, and I am paying
> $26.95 per month for the privelege of being able to
> broadcast. I connect to Live365, and Live365 takes
> all the listener connections.

Yes, but you AREN'T paying Comcast for the right to operate a server,
and a continuous, one-way VOIP connection certainly looks like one.

"Facilities Allocation: Comcast reserves the right to determine, in its
discretion, and on an ongoing basis, the nature and extent of its
facilities allocated to support the Service, including, but not limited
to, the amount of bandwidth to be utilized and delivered in conjunction
with the Service."

"Prohibited Uses of the Service: ...the Service is for personal and non-
commercial use only and you agree not to use the Service for operation
as an Internet service provider, a server site for ftp, telnet, rlogin,
e-mail hosting, "web hosting" or other similar applications, for any
business enterprise, or as an end-point on a non-Comcast local area
network or wide area network."

--Comcast TOS, http://www.comcast.net/terms/subscriber.jsp

Posted by Charles Newman on September 17, 2006, 8:35 pm
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> charlesnewman1@comcast.do.not.spam.me.net says...
> > X-No-Archive: Yes
> >
> > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:27:40 -0700, "Charles Newman"
> > >
> > > >X-No-Archive: Yes
> > > >
> > > >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:32:35 -0700, "Charles Newman"
> > > >>
> > > >> >X-No-Archive: Yes
> > > >> >
in
> > > >> >> X-No-Archive: Yes
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Comcast is now blocking ALL incoming traffic into
> > > >> >> your PC, so anything even thinking of running a server
> > > >> >> of any kind had better forget it. If you were running
> > > >> >> any kind of online radio station, as I was, a good
> > > >> >> alternative that works, and starting at a reasonable
> > > >> >> price is Live 365, at http://www.live365.com.
> > > >> >> If you are a Comcast subscriber attempting to run
> > > >> >> your own streaming audio and want an alternative,
> > > >> >> Live365 is the way to go. Packages that include
> > > >> >> the ability to do live streaming from your computer
> > > >> >> start at $20 monthly. I have been trying to start
> > > >> >> my own online talk show and discovered that
> > > >> >> Comcast is now blocking all incoming traffic
> > > >> >> to customer computers. I did that by
> > > >> >> connecting back to my setup by using an
> > > >> >> open proxy server, and disovered that
> > > >> >> all incoming traffic is now blocked.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Now those MOTHER FUCKERS are blocking outgoing
> > > >> >access to myLive365 broadcast account. If I try to connect
directly,
> > > >> >Studio365 Live will tell me it cannot connect, but if I
> > > >> >connect through an open Socks 5 proxy server, I get
> > > >> >through with no problem.
> > > >> > Unfortunately Comcast is the ONLY option I have for
> > > >> >Internet where I live. I cannot use dial-up, because the
> > > >> >computers I have did not even COME with modems and
> > > >> >most computers today do not come with modems anymore,
> > > >> >and the computer stores around here do not CARRY modems in
> > > >> >stock anymore. I cannot get DSL, becuase of the loop distance,
> > > >> >unless I want to pay in excess of $100 plus a month for
> > > >> >business-level service, so I am just stuck with having to use
> > > >> >someone's misconfigured Socks 5 proxy server when I want
> > > >> >to broadcast. Geez, this really ROYALLY PISSES ME
> > > >> >**OFF**!!! As it is, I have to cut the bitrate down to 32K,
> > > >> >from 64K, to guarantee that I can broadcast with most Socks
> > > >> >proxy servers out there.
> > > >>
> > > >> Get a Business account if you want to broadcast. You're not
supposed
> > > >> to be doing that on a Residential account anyway. I'm sure your
> > > >> neighbors appreciate Comcast's efforts to block you so that they
have
> > > >
> > > >It appears that it just might have been a DNS problem, beucase
> > > >I can suddenly connect again. Why does Comcast have so
> > > >many problems with their DNS servers?
> > > >
> > > They do not, they change them periodically to prevent people from
> > > doing things they should not be doing. They figure if it is too hard
> > > people will move up to the Business level and get a static ip address
> > > and everything else that makes life sooo much easier.
> > >
> >
> > Well, what I am doing is paying Live 365 $24.95 per month
> > to connect over a VoIP link to their servers, and then people
> > connect to the Live 365 servers to listen. The connection on
> > my end takes no more bandwidth that was any other VoIP
> > connection, such as Skype, would take. I use their Live
> > Studio software, which creates a VoIP link to Live 365,
> > and then the listeners connect to there, so I am taking a lot
> > less bandwidth than you might think. I take up no more
> > bandwidth than I would for Skype, Vonage, or any
> > VoIP service. I connect to Live365 at 32K, and then
> > the listeners connect to Live365. The Live365 servers
> > are merely a "middle man", as it were, acting as a relay
> > between my computer and my listeners, and I am paying
> > $26.95 per month for the privelege of being able to
> > broadcast. I connect to Live365, and Live365 takes
> > all the listener connections.
>
> Yes, but you AREN'T paying Comcast for the right to operate a server,
> and a continuous, one-way VOIP connection certainly looks like one.

However, I have started using an open Socks 5 proxy server.
They would know I was going to the Socks server, but what I did
beyond that, would not be know. It is one of a number of public
proxies run by a group known as PlanetLab. It is the same one
in England I use to cirucmvent the restrictions that radio stations
in Britain have been forced to imopose restricting listenership to
IP addresses in Brtain. It looks to the radio stations like I am
coming from Britain, so I get the streams, even though I am
not supposed to be able to receive them in America. Capital
FM Radio, in London, has no idea that there is someone in America
is listening to their online broadcasts, on a regular basis, because
to their servers and logs, it looks like I am connecting to their
site fron within the UK. I have done that to evade geographic
restrictions for streaming of Olympic events for the 1998, 2000,
2002, 2004, and 2006 Olympics. By using the PlanetLab proxies
in England, I was able to listen to the Eurosport stream, though
it was only supposed to be heard by people at European
IP addresses. Eurosport had no idea that anyone from America
was connecting to their servers during the period of "Olympic
restrictions", on their broadcast.
And besides, as I have already said, it appears to have been a
technical glitch, as I was suddenly able to connect, today, without
having to go through the proxy. But if they ever did decide to block
it on a permenent basis, I could still connect with SocksCap and
an open Socks proxy server. SocksCap can handle the Studio 365
live software (not all software works with SocksCap).
But as for people on Cox, who appears to be blocking access
to some Live365 streams, you can circumvent that, as one listener
did, but using an open proxy outside the Cox network. This one
listener did so, and had problems connecting to my show,
even though Cox in Las Vegas apparently was trying to block it
(and a few other Live 365 streams as well). Cox would know
she went to a proxy, but would have no idea what where she
went beyond that proxy server.







Posted by f/fgeorge on September 17, 2006, 7:15 pm
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:12:13 -0700, "Charles Newman"


>> They do not, they change them periodically to prevent people from
>> doing things they should not be doing. They figure if it is too hard
>> people will move up to the Business level and get a static ip address
>> and everything else that makes life sooo much easier.
>>
>
> Well, what I am doing is paying Live 365 $24.95 per month
>to connect over a VoIP link to their servers, and then people
>connect to the Live 365 servers to listen. The connection on
>my end takes no more bandwidth that was any other VoIP
>connection, such as Skype, would take. I use their Live
>Studio software, which creates a VoIP link to Live 365,
>and then the listeners connect to there, so I am taking a lot
>less bandwidth than you might think. I take up no more
>bandwidth than I would for Skype, Vonage, or any
>VoIP service. I connect to Live365 at 32K, and then
>the listeners connect to Live365. The Live365 servers
>are merely a "middle man", as it were, acting as a relay
>between my computer and my listeners, and I am paying
>$26.95 per month for the privelege of being able to
>broadcast. I connect to Live365, and Live365 takes
>all the listener connections.
>
I am not saying what you are doing is anything more than anyone else
is doing, I am saying that Comcast doesn't like what you are doing.
You can take that or leave it, but it is what Comcast thinks.
And as far as Skype, that maybe the next thing Comcast goes after.
Bandwidth is bandwidth to them, it makes no difference how it is used,
just that some use alot more than others. It is a Business decision,
nothing personal.


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