1751 flash memory discrepancy question

1751 flash memory discrepancy question

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1751 flash memory discrepancy question DonGLong 04-30-2008
Posted by DonGLong on April 30, 2008, 3:42 pm
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I have a 1751 showing it has 16M of flash memory, ie.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write).

Multiple posts in this newsgroup indicate I am not alone with this
amount of memory being reported.

However, Cisco documentation such as
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/1700/1720/hardware/notes/1700UMem.html
clearly show they have 32M of flash which cannot be upgraded. There
are no slots for flash so it is on the system board.

I erased the flash and nvram memory thinking there was something in
the configuration I was missing but no change.

What's going on here? I'm quite new to Cisco equipment so I am greatly
confused.

Is this an indication that maybe we have Chinese knockoffs?

Posted by Doug McIntyre on April 30, 2008, 3:58 pm
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>I have a 1751 showing it has 16M of flash memory, ie.
>16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write).

>Multiple posts in this newsgroup indicate I am not alone with this
>amount of memory being reported.

>However, Cisco documentation such as
>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/1700/1720/hardware/notes/1700UMem.html
>clearly show they have 32M of flash which cannot be upgraded. There
>are no slots for flash so it is on the system board.

>I erased the flash and nvram memory thinking there was something in
>the configuration I was missing but no change.

>What's going on here? I'm quite new to Cisco equipment so I am greatly
>confused.

>Is this an indication that maybe we have Chinese knockoffs?

No.

Cisco frequently upgraded the base flash and RAM, especially in their
small end devices, without making a new product, nor differentiating
it someway. Thus, older boxes definately are 16M, while the newest
ones (comparitivly) might roll out with 32M, and the latest IOS revs
only work on the newest boxes, leaving people with the older boxes behind.
The 8xx series suffers from this as well.

Other products don't so much have RAM/Flash built in, but socketed, so
like the 2600's came with small amounts of RAM/Flash at the start, and
with huge amounts compared to the start at the end of the line.



Posted by News Reader on April 30, 2008, 4:01 pm
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DonGLong wrote:
> I have a 1751 showing it has 16M of flash memory, ie.
> 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write).
>
> Multiple posts in this newsgroup indicate I am not alone with this
> amount of memory being reported.
>
> However, Cisco documentation such as
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/1700/1720/hardware/notes/1700UMem.html
> clearly show they have 32M of flash which cannot be upgraded. There
> are no slots for flash so it is on the system board.

I don't have access to a 1751, but offer the following opinion:

The RAM configuration for a device can change through the years that it
is sold.

Take a look at this document as an example:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/1700/prodlit/1860_pp.pdf


The memory configuration may change to keep up with ever expanding IOS
image file sizes (additional Flash), and to support newly integrated
features (additional DRAM).

The document you are referencing is probably just an updated version of
the original. You are probably in possession of an earlier vintage of
the 1751.

>
> I erased the flash and nvram memory thinking there was something in
> the configuration I was missing but no change.
>
> What's going on here? I'm quite new to Cisco equipment so I am greatly
> confused.
>
> Is this an indication that maybe we have Chinese knockoffs?

Best Regards,
News Reader

Posted by DonGLong on May 1, 2008, 4:58 pm
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That clears it up completely. Thanks for the great help!


wrote:

>DonGLong wrote:
>> I have a 1751 showing it has 16M of flash memory, ie.
>> 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write).
>>
>> Multiple posts in this newsgroup indicate I am not alone with this
>> amount of memory being reported.
>>
>> However, Cisco documentation such as
>>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/1700/1720/hardware/notes/1700UMem.html
>> clearly show they have 32M of flash which cannot be upgraded. There
>> are no slots for flash so it is on the system board.
>
>I don't have access to a 1751, but offer the following opinion:
>
>The RAM configuration for a device can change through the years that it
>is sold.
>
>Take a look at this document as an example:
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/1700/prodlit/1860_pp.pdf
>
>
>The memory configuration may change to keep up with ever expanding IOS
>image file sizes (additional Flash), and to support newly integrated
>features (additional DRAM).
>
>The document you are referencing is probably just an updated version of
>the original. You are probably in possession of an earlier vintage of
>the 1751.
>
>>
>> I erased the flash and nvram memory thinking there was something in
>> the configuration I was missing but no change.
>>
>> What's going on here? I'm quite new to Cisco equipment so I am greatly
>> confused.
>>
>> Is this an indication that maybe we have Chinese knockoffs?
>
>Best Regards,
>News Reader

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